Telegraph - Activist teachers’ questioned pupils every term about their gender, parents claim

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The bit about the non binary teacher who wears white clothes when she has her period and doesn't wear sanitary protection is particularly disturbing - which particular school is this I wonder, it's in Brighton.

I've personally challenged totally unsuitable PSHE resources. I'm not claiming that doesn't happen.

But even if you are thinking about ideological capture, what part of any ideology means that women can just bleed everywhere at work and not be challenged on it, on health and safety grounds even before we get to kids being present?

...oh, apparently it is Brighton. I missed that.

I'd set my fake story about a trans teacher in Brighton too....

I disagree that this ideology has any boundaries.

I agree with you that it should, of course.

I could see a daft, woke, weird woman faking blood to spark a conversation about menstruation re someone who doesn't think they are female.

This ideology is all about the body parts and biology standing alone without any sex attached to them.

I hope you're right. The Daily Mail is repeating it, now. So hopefully, some verification is going to be called for.

Yeah, but that's what I mean!

The reason you'd set it in Brighton, is precisely because it sounds more plausible.

That's where we're at.

This sort of “free bleeding” nonsense has been around for ages. It was pushed by idiotic hippies in the 1970s (I was an idiotic hippy at the time, but even I thought it was bonkers).

There are some conflicting reports from the conference.

One twitter user reports that a speaker described a pupil who doesn't use sanitary protection.

Does it sound more plausible that it's a pupil who is trying to make people aware that she doesn't identify as a girl, and yet still has periods?

Yes, this was part of a user’s live tweet of the event https://x.com/sarahvaci/status/1717838503436820700?s=46&t=vKGM6xpoeW3wdlaVVVagQA

How has this become a teacher deliberately visibly bleeding on period days to discuss being non-binary with her classes?

I don't believe it about the non sanpro using teacher.

From the link in theOP

She said: “We’ve had Year 7s who are innocently going ‘Yes miss, I’ll do that’. Bang, they are in what’s called a non detention … like lockdown, something like that where they lock them up after school. Two years in a row the Year 7s have been given this punishment for misgendering this teacher in their first three days at school.”

Er teachers never "lock up" children. I smell a 🐀

I'm out of touch with what happens in schools these days, but don't some schools use isolation as a form of punishment? I'm sure I've seen threads from angry parents whose kids have been put there for not having the right uniform, or similar. Could that be what's meant here, rather than literally being locked in a cell?

Ha, ha, no. Secondary school kids are savage, any teacher that tried that would get eaten alive.

I can't see that, I've exceeded my rate limit apparently.

Can you describe?

Here you go.

I’m sure I read a thread on here a while back about an autistic DD who was refusing to deal with her periods. Maybe it’s that sort of issue.

Given that kids wear uniform to school, the idea that even a pupil would be rocking up to school in tight white linen is bizarre. Where did that nonsense come from?

Thank you. Fuck me. Is that meant to be the same one? Or a different one?

I can't remember, giraffe, but I think you're a teacher?

I know you said if a teacher did this, they would be fast tracked out. What if a pupil did it?

Would it be regarded as a mental health issue? Or what?

I assumed the "identify as a cat" conversation was more like a philosophical debate, and the point the teacher was making was "we can't tell other people how they should identify".

Sixth form? Lots of schools have home clothes in sixth form.
It wouldn't surprise me at this point if a pupil both did it and got away with it because 'mental health'.
A teacher repeatedly doing it seems nigh on impossible but then so did baby drag parties so what do I know!
The 'locked up' sounds an over dramatic way of describing isolation. Although thinking about it, there are buildings in our school where the kids can't get out without a staff fob unless the fire alarm goes off and deactivates the door locks, so maybe they are literally locked in.

What a bizarre story, if true it would be all over every media outlet with photos like the weird fact boobs story. Most kids have phones now from Junior school to sixth form. They would have sneaked a photo. Else their parents would have managed to get one.

I work in a school sparking conversation is never an issue. Getting everyone to stop talking is an issue.

I work in a school sparking conversation is never an issue. Getting everyone to stop talking is an issue.

😁

From memory, no, it was an actual gender identity.

I think someone at or to the Telegraph has (dishonestly) misreported a child as a teacher. I can’t see on twitter anyone else reporting the teacher story before the Telegraph, and given the outrage the Telegraph story has provoked, it would have had the same response if it had been said at the conference. It didn’t, therefore I think it wasn’t.

If a kid was deliberately bleeding around the school this would be a mental health/SEN issue and dealt with firmly but sensitively. No one would simply let it happen. We can’t afford the cleaners, it’s unhygienic (blood has to be cleaned properly), kids would go batshit etc etc.

If a kid was deliberately bleeding around the school this would be a mental health/SEN issue and dealt with firmly but sensitively. No one would simply let it happen.

Good, it's what one would hope would happen.

What if they said they were non-binary and trying to provoke a conversation? Would that be given any credence at all?

It wasn't an actual gender identity. The girls in question were being deliberately mean. No one has provided any evidence of students identifying as cats in school (wearing cute hair bands and purring to wind up grown ups isn't identifying as a cat).
Regardless of that, a teacher 'free bleeding' would be swiftly dealt with by HR I imagine/hope.
A student would be more likely to be handled by the welfare/safeguarding/pastoral team. Lots of girls struggle with the idea of periods. Also, lots of people on the internet share poorly researched stories on 'free bleeding' that were usually made up on 4Chan.

No.

What conversation? The Telegraph says the supposed teacher was saying that because they were non-binary they weren't required to use sanitary protection. The only possible response to that is 'who cares what you are, you're bleeding on the furniture, sort it out'.

There is nothing about being non-binary that suggests that you shouldn't deal with your periods appropriately.

Even that transman upthread was trying to make a point that 'men have periods too', not that they should be allowed to drip on the floor.

Exactly. It is beyond unbelievable.