Trans prisoner who was cleared to go women's prison

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12633157/Scotland-transgender-prisoner-convicted-assaulting-guards-life-sentence.html

Is isla bryson case hadn't highlighted what was going on this males move to a women's prison would have happened. With such violent tendencies how many women would have been hurt?

And some pretty pink leggings.

I don't care whether it's validating or not.

Nobody should care whether it's validating or not.

I don't think strip searches are generally validating, regardless of anybody's gender identity.

Other things which are not supposed to be validating: using the toilet, seeking refuge from domestic violence, going to the gym and using communal showers.

Female prisoners are searched by female prison officers because they are the same sex, not because they share the same identity. If trans women were actually being treated the same as female prisoners, they would be searched by male prison officers because they are the same sex, and their identity isn't relevant here. Insisting on being searched by someone of the opposite sex is being treated differently to women. It isn't being treated the same.

I'm not arguing in favour of "validating" actions.

I'm pointing out that that is what most, if not all, of the "trans community" demands

Yes, I get that.

I'm just saying that we, as a society, need to start saying, "We don't care. Your demands are not reasonable. Your identity is your concern and yours alone. Sit down."

This guy "Tiffany" has always reminded me of Sarah Jane Baker, in fact it's really the other way round, as I'd heard of "Tiffany" first.

I imagine that would be tricky, as it would be depriving prisoners of fundamental options non prisoners have and they need justifications where they do this.

Surely the justification is that these people represent a danger to the rest of society and even after they have been released we need to know who and where they are.

And sometimes the law recognises that even the general public has a right to this information, e.g. Claire's Law. How does that work if someone can just change their name as easily as they can change their pants?

Nope. It's the thin edge of the wedge. Weak men, old men, young men, disabled men are all vulnerable in male prison, but women in prison are not a human shield for vulnerable men.

And there's nothing to say that a man who had plastic surgery pre being convicted of a non-violent crime isn't also a violent person, or a danger to women locked up with him. Men are men, and don't belong in women's spaces, no exceptions.

No, there does not.

Just no. No justifications, no explanations. They’re not necessary.

Just women saying no to men in their spaces.

The prison system can manage them the same way it manages any other males who are at risk from some kind of harm.

Pushing risk into the female population and forcing women to provide companionship and therefore forcing the women into a game of pretend if serve longer is not fair to women.

Ah the mythical ever so gentle, fully transitioned years ago, mild mannered transwoman accountant has made an appearance I see.

Male prisons are used to and set up for managing vulnerable males as they have had to be therefore they are perfectly capable of managing this mythical transperson. You do know that male prisons have special wings exactly for the purpose of keeping particular inmates safe from the general prison population.

Finally, a very good tip is for this mythical transperson not to commit a crime that would result in a prison sentence in the first place.

The law would have to specify which prisoners continue to be a danger and why. It does this on an exceptions basis, basically if you are released they can’t continue with further restrictions without following the law. So linking it to those on the sex offenders registry for example would be a very reasonable case to make and i hope they do, or make name changes more trackable.