Lisa Nandy has decided she does care about women and girls

[ArabellaScott]

https://twitter.com/lisanandy/status/1711418522444636564

'Women’s rights are human rights and human rights are non-negotiable. My absolute priority will be to embolden and empower women and girls in every part of the world'

From her speech:

'If you attack women's rights anywhere then you attack them everywhere'.

Previously:

'I think trans women are women and should be accommodated in a prison of their choosing'

What's the difference? That just sounds to me like 'if you want women's rights, you have to pretend you think that males can be women'.

Several people in the comments asking her what a woman is.

Trans rights are human rights is a saying that I never understood. I've only seen actual transphobia (people treating trans people as subhuman) on social media and places like 4Chan even though activists like to make out that GC people are the problem. Trans people are obviously human 🙄

This new quote is silly and meaningless from a party who struggle with the idea of saying that women are adult human females.

She hasn't confirmed that women are human biological females so she's probably including transwomen in that statement. Women's rights are for every woman especially the men cosplaying as women, more like.

If you say fucking stupid things in public people may treat your pronouncements with a certain degree of caution Lisa, just fyi

Again, all these MPs need to be upfront. This is just getting that curated message about 'female' out while there is very much a great deal of ambiguity when they have previously stated GRCs make a person 'female' in their eyes.

While that remains unanswered, I am not going to trust a thing they say. That trust is gone.

Has she been asked to define woman?

Has she been asked to walk back her statement about transwomen in women's prisons?

She's hopeless.

What @BernardBlacksMolluscs and @Helleofabore said.

Yes, this. Waiting for definitions of women, girls, female.... no clarity, no vote.

When she says women, what exactly does she mean?

Does she mean actual biological women, or 'legal women'?

Well it depends how she defines "woman" though, doesn't it?

We see you, Lisa. We know you're only changing tack because there's an election in the offing, and these "epiphanies" don't butter any parsnips.

Incoherent flimflam.

She may as well say 'human rights are human rights'.

I mean, great. Well done.

Whenever Labour talk about women and girls everyone needs to remember that they mean 'anyone who says they are a woman or girl'. A GRC changes legal sex and since the Labour Party believe TWAW and that a woman can have a penis all this talk means nothing.

Can't stand Lisa Nandy.

I feel embarrassed that I spent years watching her on things like Question Time and thought she knew what she was talking about!
Since the "rapists get to choose" quote I just can't believe a word she says.

My Guardian-reading, QT-watching family think she's wonderful.

They do concede that only a fucking idiot or an utter bastard says they'd lock rapists in with women, but seem to think I should overlook that for the greater good.

Drives me nuts.

She’s saying women’s rights are human rights. She’ll have said trans rights are human rights before. It’s a slogan. Don’t ask questions, it’s a nice sound bite or tweet.

As Arabella says, its human rights are human rights, everyone’s right are human rights she’s not wrong. But it’s meaningless.

That's what party conferences are, though, aren't they? A opportunity to parrot slogans and soundbites, which will then be mused over by focus groups, and compared for which 'play best with the public'. Actual serious and thought-through policies (on anything!), not so much.

Which is all lovely IF your definition of woman is an adult human female. If it’s adult human females & men with lady feelings, it’s no flipping use!

Has she still got that young person in her constituency?

Well, a few students, I imagine. But you can't expect pols to lead these days. They follow. Whatever is the path of least resistance to get them where they want to be.

Oh gosh. I wonder when she had some deep seated revelation on this.

'Women’s rights are human rights and human rights are non-negotiable. My absolute priority will be to embolden and empower women and girls in every part of the world'

Unless a rapist demands access to them when they can't escape. Then they're fucking toast.