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Woman's Hour want to know what would make you vote Labour

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WinterTrees · 10/10/2023 10:10

Today's programme (Tuesday Oct 10th) in case anyone wants to get in touch.

The question is 'what do Labour have to do to get your vote?'

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Finlesswonder · 10/10/2023 13:25

A promise to make higher education free

A promise to tax the hell out of second and buy to let homes

quantumbutterfly · 10/10/2023 13:26

They could try actually listening to their whole electorate rather than those with the bolshiest voices or the biggest bank accounts...but that's not how power works is it?

The roots of the party lay in giving a voice to ordinary people through strength in numbers, now they seem to be represented by a few people who think they know what's best based on theory and idealism.

Are womans hour only asking what would make a person vote labour? That doesn't sound very impartial.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 10/10/2023 13:27

Nothing

QueenofTheSlipstreamVM · 10/10/2023 13:27

Nothing!!! Labour will never ever get my vote.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 10/10/2023 13:28

A promise to make higher education free

What, as in 'paid for by the taxpayer' rather than 'paid for by the student'? because everything 'free' is paid for by somebody.

Froodwithatowel · 10/10/2023 13:29

What would make me vote labour?

Glue.

I live in hope of this finally killing off Labour (and the Tories) as the parties split, new blood comes up and new parties are created. You know, actual socialist, sane left ones, not in hock to the current fads and religious extremists, with a capacity and backbone sufficient to have a grip on reality. Involving MPs with diverse experience of real life and an interest in representing people. And who are not misogynist PITAs who are also closet racists, homophobes and appalling snobs, who lecture and scold everyone. Constantly. And tediously. It's worse than the shouty men in suits of the 80s Conservatives.

A woman can dream.

Unexpected1 · 10/10/2023 13:31

Labour doesn't care about women or working class people. If they elect a party leader who had a working class upbringing ie parents who worked full time but not in high paying jobs and didn't go to private school then I'd vote for Labour.

quantumbutterfly · 10/10/2023 13:33

ArabellaScott · 10/10/2023 12:49

Yep.

They'd have to commit to listening. To concede how badly wrong they have been on some issues. And acknowledge what they've done to women.

I dunno, though. It's all just going to be fed into the spin machine, isn't it? And they will spit out another speech-written-by-committee with focus-group talking points, bullet pointed 'issues' and carefully calibrated politico-speak that is supremely vague enough that it will appeal to all people at all times.

It's such utter, utter wank. The faux 'passion' that is Rayner shouting about how Tories are 'scum'. The faux 'both sides' ism that is Starmer with his fucking weasel words.

It's so far removed from what I actually want in politicians - honesty, integrity, humility, a collegiate willingness to consider others views and work with them for the greater good - that I really don't see a party with even a glimmer of a reason for me to vote for them. Not a one.

It's not a great position to be in.

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I hate to be the person that complains and does nothing to help, but people go into politics for personal glory and profit it seems and that's never going to benefit the people.

PTSDBarbiegirl · 10/10/2023 13:40

A party wide statement that gender identity politics is nothing more than a cult. An invitation to other politicians to join labour if they also believe in reality. Say that females are the only women and girls & must be afforded protection of single sex spaces. Acknowledgement of WHY this is necessary. Publish and broadcast violence, murder, abuse stats on women & girls perpetrated by males.

Massive education programme for all on the BBC about sex stereotyping, history of misogyny & internalised homophobia that has led to dysphoria. Start teaching sociology in schools. Muzzle India Willoughby and his tribe.

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WinterTrees · 10/10/2023 13:41

I started this thread before getting in the car, listened to WH when driving then forgot to check in again - mostly because it was such a disappointing segment. I find it hard to believe that no one raised the issue of women's rights as a reason.

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QueenBitch666 · 10/10/2023 13:42

Correctly define what a woman is. Keep men out of women only spaces. I'm not holding my breath

PTSDBarbiegirl · 10/10/2023 13:42

And much, much, much more awareness around autism and why people with autism are drawn to non binary/trans identities!!!!

QueenBitch666 · 10/10/2023 13:43

And... A public apology to Rosie Duffield. Their treatment of her has been fking shameful

LarkLane · 10/10/2023 13:51

After the abuse from Labour delegates, FBU and USDAW representatives, I experienced on Sunday, they won't be getting my vote, they think I'm scum.

Froodwithatowel · 10/10/2023 13:53

Yes. Having seen the men with lanyards bellowing filth and abuse at women talking about their experience of rape this weekend? I agree. I've seen all I need to see there. Permanently.

ISaySteadyOn · 10/10/2023 13:55

Everything IncomingTraffic said and one more thing. I would really like it if they could say something positive about the UK. I have never to my recollection heard a Labour politician aside from Blair say anything nice about this country. How can I trust a party that appears to loathe the country and the inhabitants it claims to want to serve?

I say this as the weirdo immigrant who moved to the UK because I genuinely wanted to.

Fizzadora · 10/10/2023 14:01

Absolutely nothing.....never have, never ever will.

DressDilemma · 10/10/2023 14:01
  1. Stop being misogynistic and be able to define what a woman is.
  2. Drop the plan to apply VAT on school fees.
975zyx · 10/10/2023 14:04

If hell freezes over. And even then it’s not a guarantee.

LarkLane · 10/10/2023 14:07

Ey up. Starmers getting heckled at his Speech!

EasternStandard · 10/10/2023 14:07

I did a few times, not this lot though

No chance

Amazonmulu · 10/10/2023 14:08

Real urgent action on climate. Now.

EasternStandard · 10/10/2023 14:08

LarkLane · 10/10/2023 14:07

Ey up. Starmers getting heckled at his Speech!

I just turned to Times radio to hear, heard his nasal voice and had to switch back to R6

maltravers · 10/10/2023 14:10

Who’s heckling him? Tell me it’s a woman about our rights pleeeeze?!

Abitofalark · 10/10/2023 14:10

I didn't hear it. What was the context for asking this question? Has the BBC started campaigning for Labour already? Sounds like it when put baldly like that.

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