Starmer says a woman is a female adult

[WanderingWitches]

I can't see a post about this quote in The Observer today
There are a lot of pissed off people on X about this.

"Sunak received his loudest applause from the Tory crowd in Manchester when he lunged into the arguments about identity issues by baldly declaring: “A man is a man and a woman is a woman.” Does Starmer, whose own party has its divisions on the subject, agree? “Yes, of course,” he responds crisply and without qualification. “You know, a woman is a female adult.”

www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/oct/07/keir-starmer-we-need-to-show-the-country-that-we-are-the-change

I can spit further than I trust this snivelling invertebrate.

'Nobody raises this question you've just asked me' is such utter fucking wafflepiff.

I mean, that's the fucking problem, mate! Stop fucking lying!!!! We KNOW we have been raising it with you for the past few bloody years - WHY LIE???

Ah, but he never hears it on the doorstep.
If he genuinely doesn't, he must believe it's genuinely a non issue, so why do such a telling apparent 180 from "99% of women yada yada"?

If he's not hearing women raise it, stick with your original position. I'd actually have more respect for him.

No. He knows it's an issue even if he's not accosted personally on it. And he's gaslighting us in that strained earnest way of his, now with layers of positive declaration to see women right.

Right...

Wafflepiff- brilliant Arabella!! You have such a way with words!

This. He's shown himself to be a slimey, arrogant misogynist and nothing short of a full public apology for his past aggression to women and shocking treatment of Rosie should make any woman feel safe with him in power.

Not me recently. It was last GE and last local government election.

Childish and pathetic. What utter snowflakes if they think that a man being required to stay out of the ladies instigating murder.

Is KJK still planning on standing in his constituency? I haven't heard much about that for a while.

Dog whistle, innit?

Is human not a given?

Because that is the slogan Posie is known for so he's trying to distance himself from that association whilst still making it sound similar enough to women who agree with Posie.

I think Lammy said something similar then a woman posted on here to say she had specifically brought it up to him on the doorstep.

Are there any rules about not recording doorstep conversations?

Apparently the ICO says the use of things like Ring doorbells to capture video or sound recordings is “not a breach of data protection law”.

Lots of people have Ring doorbells for security.

It was Jess Phillips who said that she had never had it raised on the doorstep and someone posted to say that she HAD raised it.

Yeah, I have a ring doorbell. Fairly common now, I'd say. It would be interesting if there was somewhere you could upload these these questions, so they could be compiled for posterity?

Why would it be, in a world where a beardy bloke wearing a mans suit can himself a woman and women aren't allowed to argue without being accused of hate crime?
These are strange times. Nothing is a given.

In true MN fashion, I have a Ring doorbell.
And a sign in the window.

Dunno, sounds a bit like biological determinism to me

I always find this question quite dangerous because it implies that only pre-op TW are male, but once they’ve had “bottom surgery” they can then be classed as a woman.

"No self-respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party who ignores her sex."

• Susan B. Anthony, 1872 -

Every word used to describe the class of humans formerly known as women will suffer this fate

Male = sperm
Female = eggs

Can't be said often enough.

When a trans man has successfully fathered a child using their own sperm or a trans woman has successfully conceived a child using their own eggs, then and only then will I entertain the possibility of humans being able to change sex.

Because this is what sex IS.

It's which half of the baby making equation you potentially are.