Hollie McNish

[orangedrizzle]

And another one! I thought she was a good un as well!

Inventing anger?

Gaslighting women more like.

That's disappointing. I liked her.

Oh. I liked her. 😔

Well ....not exactly John Boyne now is she ?

I went to see her and really liked her - there was a fab poem about the shittiness of being a female teenager.

The poem in the OP is so ignorant.

Doesn’t she know that transwomen, written as all one word, is seen as offensive by TRAs?

A well-meaning but tone-deaf poem. A lot of words to say “this never happens” and “be kind”. I can only imagine how triggering this poem would be for the patient who was raped by a TW and then gaslit by the NHS.

Hollie needs to educate herself. This is not about good, kind people versus evil Suella De Villes. It’s about women losing their rights, their dignity, privacy, safety, sports, achievements, single-sex spaces, even the words they use to describe themselves and their healthcare needs. If men can be women too, then the word “woman” loses all meaning. TW should never have been told they were W. It was a cruel lie that has benefited no one. They should have been supported to live as they wished and wear what they want, but to respect women-only spaces and services.

Women-only spaces are needed because sex matters more than gender identity, as has been proven time and again.

I mean, she's right in the sense that there are very few transwomen and not that many of them end up in hospital and there are very many things that are wrong with hospitals that get less attention than the issue of transwomen in women's wards.

Personally I would go for a rule of no pre-operative transwomen on women's wards, side rooms on mixed or male wards used at discretion, there you go Hollie, sorted it now we can focus on the things you think we should.

-preoperative

(Apart from everything else, you'd need to be very specific about which ops count.)

because sex matters more than gender identity

I love this phrase. Thank you. You've so succinctly summarised it all there.

I completely agree that the Tories have decimated the NHS and that Rishi is an arse. I just didn't this poem so insulting and ignorant. Judging from her previous work, I would have thought she'd be more in line with the GC argument but clearly not.

<snort>

That “investigation” that asked less than half the Trusts in England (to be clear, none in NI & none of the Welsh & Scottish Boards) about periods of a year - 10 of which covered 01/04/20 to 31/03/21 & 42 of them 01/01/21 to 31/12/21. That’s over half of the 102 FOI requests while the NHS was not functioning as usual.

Moreover, it became clear from the second batch onwards that Trusts don’t keep data on whether or not there were trans women to complain about.

Just to round off though, once vulnerable women have been put through the recommended-by-policy “bollock them for their utter fascism” on mentioning it to staff (as they’re almost bound to do before making an official complaint) they won’t complain. Or hospitals will shamelessly obfuscate - if a woman has complained about a man on her ward, because that’s how she perceives the TW in her bay, they’re not going to volunteer that information. In fairness, it might not come up in a keyword search depending on the response that was made.

As investigations go, it doesn’t cut it. There’s a reason no reputable publication will print it; & it’s not “anti-trans bias”. It’s that a literal child should be able to research more efficiently.

"A woman was raped"
"Ah, but unless she raised it as a written complaint to the NHS trust it doesn't count"
(Even had someone here the other day saying they don't believe her, because the Telegraph was one of the papers that reported on it. So you not only have to fill in the correct paperwork but somehow stop specific papers from reporting cases of rape to be believed).

It's not a misogynistic movement though!!!!

Granddad was on a hospital ward complaining in public about the fact that he had not had sex.
And the female stranger in the bed beside him just rolled her eyes and laughed ........

Creepy opening line setting the (low) bar for what women should accept
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This is highly creepy and intimidating. If I was in my nightclothes in a bed beside her grandfather who was complaining about not get any sex, I would be asking to move beds (wards) PRONTO!!

How could you sleep knowing a pervy old man was in the bed beside you?

Does the "author" not realise how inappropriate this sort of behaviour is!!??

If she thinks this amusing coming from a grandfather to his granddaughter, then there is something not quite right there!

Bizarre!

I was referring to the penis

All I know is this...I have just read the worst poem in my whole life and will never get those seconds of my life back....

Yeah good point...what a weirdo!

TBH I didn't even realise it was supposed to be poem, until read through the thread. Just thought it was a badly laid out Insta post!!

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Resurrecting this to mention that Hollie will be propping up her buddy Nicola Sturgeon with more of her wonderful insights through the medium of poetry.

Oh Hollie, that’s really disappointing.

Back in my breastfeeding peer supporter days, Hollie McNish used to be the ‘inspirational entertainment’ of choice for bf organisations at conferences and events, as she so closely captured women’s experiences of motherhood…

I am sure that she earned a nice bit of money from those appearances and is now just keeping up with the times.

This is so disappointing

WERE AW BESTPALS PURE WORKIN CLASS YE KIN TELL BY THE GLO AL STOPS

I wonder what her views on breastfeeding are now?

Maybe someone should alert her to Princess Mom.

Oh, this is disappointing.

I did read about this at the time, as I was a fan of Hollie, but I had forgotten about it.

I have noticed over the past while though that she seems to miss the mark quite a lot.

I no longer read / listen to her on social media as much as I did, but when I do I've noticed quite a lot of discord among the comments, people disagreeing with what she is taking, and while she does sometimes reply she can't convincingly argue her point. One such instance was a poem she did about "mummy brain". That was definitely missed the mark.

I know she went to Cambridge. And I admit did see something in her in the early days, the motherhood and breastfeeding poems, but I feel now she is becoming a bit of a caricature, and although I hate to say it, not quite as switched on as I had initially thought.

Wondering if she will continue to double down on this. I hope not.

Perhaps she identifies as Vogon.

'no one has ever complained about trans women on women's wards'

Completely untrue. There was a rape a couple of years ago, I also remember a woman discharging herself because a strange male called 'Barbara' was making himself a nuisance on the supposedly female ward.

Just untrue, you can't make blunt statements like this as they are utterly gaslighting.