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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Menopause finally being taken seriously - for men!

43 replies

Whatthechicken · 07/10/2023 10:56

I’m not even sure where to start with this:

Up to 12 months paid leave

Firefighters to be able to ‘work from home’

Special uniforms and portable fans

flexible working patterns…

If you’re a bloke suffering from menopausal symptoms.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-12603671/JULIE-BINDEL-NHS-trusts-councils-policies-male-menopause-furious.html#article-12603671

JULIE BINDEL: Policies on 'male menopause' has left me reeling

JULIE BINDEL: The phenomenon of 'male menopause' doesn't exist - and that's not just the angry rhetoric of a lifelong feminist who has spent her career campaigning for women's rights .

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-12603671/JULIE-BINDEL-NHS-trusts-councils-policies-male-menopause-furious.html#article-12603671

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Whatthechicken · 07/10/2023 14:10

Perfect28 · 07/10/2023 13:31

Do you really have to ask?

Yes I did and you still haven’t explained why I shouldn’t share it. I don’t appreciate being policed over what is an acceptable news outlet or not.

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Perfect28 · 07/10/2023 14:33

Well if you're happy to support and share fake news and fascist views, go ahead.

Whatthechicken · 07/10/2023 14:37

Perfect28 · 07/10/2023 14:33

Well if you're happy to support and share fake news and fascist views, go ahead.

Ahh, you believe all that is left is good and right of centre is fascist? Don’t worry, you’ll grow out of it. I suggest you go and look up the word fascist though, before you start throwing it around.

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OvaHere · 07/10/2023 14:38

Perfect28 · 07/10/2023 14:33

Well if you're happy to support and share fake news and fascist views, go ahead.

Has women discussing this triggered you in some way?

Perfect28 · 07/10/2023 15:10

Oh, I know the meaning of the word. 👍

Tiredalwaystired · 07/10/2023 15:11

Ah. Goady Daily Mail. Designed to enflame.

quantumbutterfly · 07/10/2023 15:15

All papers are designed to influence, we can choose.

PaperWalkAndTalk · 07/10/2023 15:25

Julie Bindel is a fascist for not believing in a male menopause?

PaperWalkAndTalk · 07/10/2023 15:29

And actually isn't it odd how some people have got very angry at newspapers reporting on a (fictional) male issue. Men's rights activism in action.

rockingbird · 07/10/2023 15:32

Oh well fuck me sideways.. there will be a cure for this and no shortage of supplies just like viagra. The women will quite melt and keep shut 🙄

Boomboom22 · 07/10/2023 15:36

You can't just say the daily mail is fake news, they are held to the same standards as other press like the guardian.

Transparent2 · 07/10/2023 15:56

Perfect28 · 07/10/2023 14:33

Well if you're happy to support and share fake news and fascist views, go ahead.

Is the Guardian article I linked to ‘fake news and fascist views’ too?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/10/2023 15:58

Well if you're happy to support and share fake news and fascist views, go ahead.

Julie Bindel is a fascist? Huge news.

Wiccan · 07/10/2023 16:45

PaperWalkAndTalk · 07/10/2023 13:50

I would question where the push is coming from. Are there lobbying groups (like Stonewall), commercial interests or people worried that because the menopause is a female only issue it would be sex discrimination that men aren't involved?

Clearly it's nonsense, and the last thing we need is for an excuse for middle-aged public sector workers to be able to take a year off on full pay.

Absolutely agree , there is something very
" Trans ideology " about all this ( what a surprise ) FFS they're trying to sneak it in
Everywhere. Male Andropause is relatively easy to deal with for those very few men who even bloody notice . Female Menopause on the other hand is extremely complex affects every part of a women's body including mental health and can and does ruin women's lives , employment , relationships , health . Many women are still fighting to get help with their Peri /Menopause because even GPs are so poorly trained in the subject . Let's please not insult women further by pretending a Man will go through an equally terrible male menopause because it's just bollocks.

Pumpernickles · 07/10/2023 17:02

Women! Read what I tell you or you are naughty naughty people!

Tiredalwaystired · 07/10/2023 17:38

I dont think it’s necessarily fake news but I do think they’ve actively chosen a headline story which doesn’t warrant a headline because they know it rules people up and gets them talking about their paper. Whether it is a newsworthy enough story to warrant the column inches is entirely debatable (it isn’t)

EarthSight · 07/10/2023 19:11

Whatthechicken · 07/10/2023 11:07

Men. Menopause is only just being recognised by organisations for the devastating impacts it can have…and orgs swoop in immediately with solutions for men who are going through a mid-life crisis. Can’t have anything these days.

No because there is no shortage of men keeping a tally on the pesky rights that women might be getting and going 'BUT WHAT ABOUT MEN'.

Unfortunately, there's a lot of women like that as well who care more about men and being seen as supportive than they are in their own and other women's wellbeing.

Wiccan · 07/10/2023 19:15

Some men can experience " late onset hypogonadism " it's extremely rare. a Male menopause is absolute myth . Andropause does have a few low grade symptoms , weight gain , poor sleep , sweating , anxiety that after a blood test can be put right . So any Men out there who think this might be a thing , sorry it ain't . Mostly in middle age the above symptoms are caused by poor diet, a bad lifestyle , smoking , drinking and little or no excercise.

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