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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Well who'd a thunk? Swimming

85 replies

IcakethereforeIam · 03/10/2023 15:35

Actually, this does surprise me a little. I'd have thought someone would have entered if just for the prize money, assuming there's prize money.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-12588373/Swimming-World-Cups-open-races-transgender-swimmers-scrapped-entered-following-ban-competing-female-events.html

Swimming World Cup's 'open' races for transgender swimmers scrapped

DAVID COVERDALE: The first 'open' races for transgender swimmers have been scrapped after no entries were received for this week's World Cup meeting in Berlin.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-12588373/Swimming-World-Cups-open-races-transgender-swimmers-scrapped-entered-following-ban-competing-female-events.html

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SabrinaThwaite · 03/10/2023 17:57

The entry times weren’t even particularly fast (by international standards) - for women.

So … it really is all about the validation.

IHaveAskedYouThriceNow · 03/10/2023 18:00

It was never about competing, it was about putting women in their place.

loislovesstewie · 03/10/2023 18:14

Hands up who could have foreseen this? Yes, thought so.

Boiledbeetle · 03/10/2023 18:44

loislovesstewie · 03/10/2023 18:14

Hands up who could have foreseen this? Yes, thought so.

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TheHappyCarrot · 03/10/2023 18:58

Well I call it proper rude after going to all that trouble for them.

ManuelBensonsLeftBoot · 03/10/2023 19:17

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CyberCritical · 03/10/2023 19:25

Well it's easy to win if you're the only male in the women's competition.

Less easy to win if you're racing against other men in women's swimsuits.

Pretty much impossible to win if you're female in trunks racing males in swimsuits.

So I can see why no one bothered.

PowerVandhana1986 · 03/10/2023 19:37

Goodjob.

TwighttimeVandhuk3 · 03/10/2023 19:48

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ManuelBensonsLeftBoot · 03/10/2023 19:59

Has anyone ask Thomas why they didn't apply?

SpiderMaam · 03/10/2023 20:01

Aw, not even Anne Coombes?

Wheresmypal · 03/10/2023 20:09

How predictable. They couldn’t have more clearly illustrated how it was never about the sport but all about forcing other women to ‘accept’ them as women.

Wheresmypal · 03/10/2023 20:10

CyberCritical · 03/10/2023 19:25

Well it's easy to win if you're the only male in the women's competition.

Less easy to win if you're racing against other men in women's swimsuits.

Pretty much impossible to win if you're female in trunks racing males in swimsuits.

So I can see why no one bothered.

Are you suggesting it’s sex that affects sporting performance and not gender identity?

Transphobe!

SabrinaThwaite · 03/10/2023 20:27

ManuelBensonsLeftBoot · 03/10/2023 19:59

Has anyone ask Thomas why they didn't apply?

Not fast enough? They’re all 50s and 100s (with the exception of 200 IM) and Thomas isn’t a sprinter.

CyberCritical · 03/10/2023 20:32

I've learned i'm in good and plentiful company @Wheresmypal given you only have to sneeze in a way that sounds like an incorrect pronoun to be declared transphobic, so I'll wear my badge with pride.

Hellocatshome · 03/10/2023 20:37

SabrinaThwaite · 03/10/2023 17:57

The entry times weren’t even particularly fast (by international standards) - for women.

So … it really is all about the validation.

Have you got a link to the times?

ManuelBensonsLeftBoot · 03/10/2023 20:45

SabrinaThwaite · 03/10/2023 20:27

Not fast enough? They’re all 50s and 100s (with the exception of 200 IM) and Thomas isn’t a sprinter.

Could Thomas not identify as sprinter? 🌊

PriOn1 · 03/10/2023 21:22

I wonder how many men were competing in women’s sports before the ban. It really isn’t surprising though.

I was just thinking it might pick up if all the transmen realize they can enter, having taken medicinal testosterone, but there’s a high chance that, if they did, some man would decide it was time to start competing again.

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 03/10/2023 21:32

Shocked, I tell you. Shocked.

Helleofabore · 03/10/2023 21:36

So no one entered a race where they could potentially easily win and set a world record for the new category? I mean, not one entrant?

That must mean that these male athletes are simply not interested in competing unless their misogynistic demands are met. Meaning so much sunlight that I am wearing sunnies at night!!!

Readers it was always based on both validation and beating women and girls. And potentially using the female changing space. Nothing else.

sleepyscientist · 03/10/2023 21:43

Nothing to do with them being pushed out and highlighted as different at all. People need to remember this could be your kids in 10/20years time. Suffering gender dysphoria, having the courage to undergo treatment and then being excluded for having been ill.

SpiderMaam · 03/10/2023 21:52

sleepyscientist · 03/10/2023 21:43

Nothing to do with them being pushed out and highlighted as different at all. People need to remember this could be your kids in 10/20years time. Suffering gender dysphoria, having the courage to undergo treatment and then being excluded for having been ill.

Excluded from single sex competition for being the other sex.

And plenty of us have trans identifying children already - in case you hadn’t heard, there is a social contagion amongst teenagers 🤦‍♀️

SpiderMaam · 03/10/2023 21:53

Also, being transgender isn’t an illness. You sound like a transphobe, SleepyScientist do 👏 better 👏

AutumnFroglets · 03/10/2023 21:58

sleepyscientist · 03/10/2023 21:43

Nothing to do with them being pushed out and highlighted as different at all. People need to remember this could be your kids in 10/20years time. Suffering gender dysphoria, having the courage to undergo treatment and then being excluded for having been ill.

What treatment? Most adult males who decide to go TW don't have any.

But they are different. That's the whole point. They can never be a biological woman.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 03/10/2023 21:58

SpiderMaam · 03/10/2023 21:53

Also, being transgender isn’t an illness. You sound like a transphobe, SleepyScientist do 👏 better 👏

are you expecting consistency?

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