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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

DS's school - deep in genderwoo

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doublehistrionics · 28/09/2023 21:06

DS started at senior this term, y9. It's a private school, he was at the prep before.

A couple of weeks in it's clear the school is pretty captured by gender ideology. He has a teacher who is they/them, all the teachers wearing pronouns on their lanyards and DS has been told that he must get it right or he could be sanctioned.

Last week they were invited in to a room, one-by-one and with a tape recorder running asked to state their pronouns, to someone not known to them at all and quite possibly a non-staff member.

I'm pretty exasperated. I've emailed and had a conversation with the head of house who made noises about escalating it and having conversations but I don't believe anything will change.

Anyone else having this experience?

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doublehistrionics · 29/09/2023 16:24

@RhymesWithOrange well done on achieving that at your DD's school. I've got a bit of time and I feel like it's a battle worth fighting.

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TodayInahurry · 29/09/2023 16:44

This is deeply sinister, it is what you would expect from communist China not the UK. Can you report to you local authority and even the police?

take the child somewhere else, no wonder children have mental health issues.

MinervaBoudicca · 29/09/2023 19:00

‘Last week they were invited in to a room, one-by-one and with a tape recorder running asked to state their pronouns, to someone not known to them at all and quite possibly a non-staff member’

surely that’s a complete safeguarding fail right there?

Mari60 · 29/09/2023 19:36

Just before I quit my middle management post, I was tasked with writing a Diversity Policy for my school. At that time, Stonewall was advising schools to go to Mermaids for advice on transgender issues.

I wouldn't touch Stonewall with a ten foot bargepole these days.

AlisonDonut · 29/09/2023 19:39

You are going to be asking for a copy of that recording right?

Mari60 · 29/09/2023 19:41

My former HT was castigated by a local councillor for not doing enough for LGBQT+ . He pointed out that neither was the school up the road. "That's different. It's a Catholic school."

I would absolutely consider a faith school for a child of mine, if it meant that it would save them from Mermaids and the like.

Twilight7777 · 29/09/2023 19:45

Christ what comes next identifying people by a 5 digit number?!

stayflufft · 29/09/2023 19:52

doublehistrionics · 28/09/2023 21:06

DS started at senior this term, y9. It's a private school, he was at the prep before.

A couple of weeks in it's clear the school is pretty captured by gender ideology. He has a teacher who is they/them, all the teachers wearing pronouns on their lanyards and DS has been told that he must get it right or he could be sanctioned.

Last week they were invited in to a room, one-by-one and with a tape recorder running asked to state their pronouns, to someone not known to them at all and quite possibly a non-staff member.

I'm pretty exasperated. I've emailed and had a conversation with the head of house who made noises about escalating it and having conversations but I don't believe anything will change.

Anyone else having this experience?

Bloody hell. I would be taking a complaint as far as possible. This madness needs to end.

Chasetherainblownfearsaway · 29/09/2023 20:07

Apart from anything else, requiring students to disclose pronouns is essentially requiring trans students to out themselves. There is no way that should happen in a school. And the data protection issues are legion.

RhymesWithOrange · 29/09/2023 20:12

It's not that hard to push back at schools, this ideology is utterly indefensible. I would encourage every parent to have meetings with schools if it rears it's ugly head.

Safe Schools Alliance; Transgender Trend; Sex Matters all have great resources.

Leafstamp · 29/09/2023 20:30

RhymesWithOrange · 29/09/2023 20:12

It's not that hard to push back at schools, this ideology is utterly indefensible. I would encourage every parent to have meetings with schools if it rears it's ugly head.

Safe Schools Alliance; Transgender Trend; Sex Matters all have great resources.

This. Plus I'd go a step further and suggest parents proactively seek out information about what their children are learning and how the school is approaching this topic both in the classroom and in policies.

Sex matters have useful info here : Use School Check to find out if a school has been captured by gender-identity ideology - Sex Matters (sex-matters.org)

Use School Check to find out if a school has been captured by gender-identity ideology - Sex Matters

There are a lot of suggestions here, but just do as much as you have time for. Some parts may be easier for you than others – but even if you have only looked in a few places, it's still worth approaching the school.

https://sex-matters.org/take-action/school-check/

Spookymormonhelldream · 29/09/2023 20:35

Fuxking hell. No advice but solidarity OP. The recording thing would have me absolutely on the warpath though. What if a pupil 'identifies' as something then changes their mind? It's no one's business and certainly a breach of GDPR.
I'm Catholic and my DS will be attending catholic secondary school. At the open evening the Head was very clear that sex Ed is taught in line with the values of the church. It was a very thinly veiled way of saying, no woo bullshit here.

Mari60 · 30/09/2023 22:18

I agree with everything Spookymormonhelldream has just said.

I've had 3 trans identified pupils who all eventually desisted - two after leaving school and one whilst still at school.

My impression of the eldest is that she was being pressurised into being trans by her peers, if that doesn't sound crazy: she was laid back if a teacher 'deadnamed' her. (Only her real name was on the register.) It was the other kids who started screaming 'Transphobia!'

I shudder to think what would have happened to the youngest girl if she'd been coerced into giving her pronouns to an adult. She desisted after less than a year.

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