Police again, please just make them stop

[Imnobody4]

https://twitter.com/WeAreFairCop/status/1706572610283139353?t=6GRJ8ayBpcCami_fZ_TljA&s=19

1. BREAKING: The Rise of the Carrier Bag Police!!!!

@nottspolice telephoned @Kareena_Queena because she rejected a Progressive Pride carrier bag with the Love is Love motif, thereby causing the shopkeeper alarm, harassment and distress, and threatening the shop’s status as a trans inclusive safe space.

2. In a ten minute phone call, which we have heard, the police advised that the customer was now banned from the shop and warned that she must not hand out any form of literature in the shop’s vicinity.

Yet again, the police are acting as TQI+ enforcers. @SuellaBraverman

[AlisonDonut]

When did a shop owner have dibs on the surrounding vicinity of their shop?

And it is Nottingham. I can't see on here where all the crimes were resolved and sorted to enable them spending time on this?

https://crimerate.co.uk/nottinghamshire/nottingham

[Imnobody4]

Why didn't the police explain that you can't ban someone with a protected characteristic (GC) from your shop. That's discrimination.

[MrsOvertonsWindow]

The capture of the police is one of the most sinister aspects of all this for women and children. Especially as the extent of predators, abusers and rapists in their ranks is revealed.

[MargotBamborough]

Banned for rejecting a carrier bag?

Surely there has to be more to it than that.

Personally if I were the Police I would be a bit iffy about the slogan "love is love" anyway, given all the potential sexual relationships between people which are actually illegal, such as between an adult and a child. But that's just me.

[ErrolTheDragon]

Personally if I were the Police I would be a bit iffy about the slogan "love is love" anyway, given all the potential sexual relationships between people which are actually illegal, such as between an adult and a child. But that's just me.

No, it's not just you, it's anyone with the slightest amount of nous and awareness.

[SingingSands]

How did the police get the shopper's phone number?!

[MargotBamborough]

@ErrolTheDragon

Personally if I were the Police I would be a bit iffy about the slogan "love is love" anyway, given all the potential sexual relationships between people which are actually illegal, such as between an adult and a child. But that's just me.

No, it's not just you, it's anyone with the slightest amount of nous and awareness.

Meanwhile, down at Hebden Bridge Police Station, Inspector Smith re-enters Interview Room B carrying his lunch in a carrier bag.

Inspector Smith: So, Mr Humbert, can you please explain why you asked a 12 year old girl you met online to send you pictures of her breasts?
Mr Humbert: Love is love. It says so on your lunch bag.
Inspector Smith: Not that kind of love.

[Webex]

This makes no sense. How did the shop know who she was and have her phone number to give to the police?

[PorcelinaV]

@Imnobody4

Why didn't the police explain that you can't ban someone with a protected characteristic (GC) from your shop. That's discrimination.

Good point.

Although the person in question may not have told the police, "I did this because of my gender critical views".

[PorcelinaV]

@Webex

This makes no sense. How did the shop know who she was and have her phone number to give to the police?

Credit or debit card?

And then the police could get her phone number?

[ErrolTheDragon]

@Webex

This makes no sense. How did the shop know who she was and have her phone number to give to the police?

Well... shops do sometimes have customer contact details for promotions, discounts etc.
But I don't suppose under GDPR they're supposed to use such details to get the police to harass someone for refusing a carrier bag.

[Tallisker]

Aren't we supposed to take our own bags when we shop? <misses point>

[ItsAllGoingToBeFine]

There must be more to this ie the customer must have told the shop why they didn't want the bag, otherwise all the stuff about not leafleting outside shop / police visit makes no sense at all.

[MargotBamborough]

@ItsAllGoingToBeFine

There must be more to this ie the customer must have told the shop why they didn't want the bag, otherwise all the stuff about not leafleting outside shop / police visit makes no sense at all.

Even if they did tell the shopkeeper why they didn't want the bag, I fail to see how it is a police matter.

And this is becoming a feminist issue for me in itself, that the police getting involved in trivial matters such as this then have less time to investigate sexual assault complaints or domestic violence or any number of things which disproportionately affect women and children.

[Melroses]

Maybe they gave the shopkeeper a leaflet to explain why they didn't want the bag?

[IcakethereforeIam]

Harry Miller has posted an article in the Critic that mentions this, though I'm still none the wiser as to how the coppers id'd her. There's a lot of stuff about fake tweets(?) that totally go over my head. Suffice to say the Police seem to have their priorities totally screwed.

https://thecritic.co.uk/a-tweet-deceit/

[LakeTiticaca]

@SingingSands

How did the police get the shopper's phone number?!

I'm wondering this too.
Smelling a bit of bullshit here 😉

[ErrolTheDragon]

@IcakethereforeIam

Harry Miller has posted an article in the Critic that mentions this, though I'm still none the wiser as to how the coppers id'd her. There's a lot of stuff about fake tweets(?) that totally go over my head. Suffice to say the Police seem to have their priorities totally screwed.

https://thecritic.co.uk/a-tweet-deceit/

Some will accuse us of wasting police time, but we don’t much care. Competent officers are unlikely to be tricked. Guidance is clear, and the police need to enforce it upon themselves with at least as much enthusiasm as they previously enforced the unlawful guidance upon members of the public whose political views they despised. 

The police are wasting their own time.

[MargotBamborough]

@Melroses

Maybe they gave the shopkeeper a leaflet to explain why they didn't want the bag?

Then the shopkeeper should have explained why they didn't want the leaflet.

Or put the leaflet in the bin.

Not called the bloody police.

[BorgQueen]

This is the same Nottingham where an A G P goes around photographing himself flashing his genitals in cafes and shops and the Police weren’t interested in identifying him, yes?

[MargotBamborough]

FFS.

Have the Police always been a law unto themselves, just deciding who and what to prosecute, which people are above the law and which people should be investigated for things which aren't even crimes, according to the current culture within the force?

[WickedSerious]

@AlisonDonut

When did a shop owner have dibs on the surrounding vicinity of their shop?

And it is Nottingham. I can't see on here where all the crimes were resolved and sorted to enable them spending time on this?

https://crimerate.co.uk/nottinghamshire/nottingham

Aye,I want to move to one of these utopias where there's so little crime left to solve that the police are able to devote all of their time to this absolute shite.

[SaffronSpice]

Isn’t ‘love is love’ a peadophile slogan?

[PorcelinaV]

If you pay by card, I can only imagine it's very easy for the police to get your details.

[SerendipityJane]

@MargotBamborough

FFS.

Have the Police always been a law unto themselves, just deciding who and what to prosecute, which people are above the law and which people should be investigated for things which aren't even crimes, according to the current culture within the force?

Yes.

But à la Pastor Niemöller , no one noticed when it wasn't their turn.