Richard Ayoade supports Richard Ayoade

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I know it's a mistake but I thought this was rather funny :)

"Former Sun Editor Kelvin MacKenzie has praised Richard Ayoade’s show of support for cancelled comedian Richard Ayoade."

https://www.gbnews.com/celebrity/kelvin-mackenzie-richard-ayoade-jonathan-ross-latest-trans

Excellent gif.

There are sooooo many of moss that are just divine this week.

Because of the bbc and woman's hour, I've been able to open conversations with other local mums (many hcps) about the whole debate. And they agree.

Because the bbc is what they tend to watch/ listen to.

A family member watches GB News. Well , she has it on in the background more like. I probably wouldn't leave the house if I believed the relentless doom and gloom on there. Farage and Arlene Foster! The dynamic duo who brought you Hard Brexit are here to explain why life is a shit sandwich 🥪.

They are rightb about gender woo. And they've realised it is a good attack line for the Tories. Not because they care about lesbians mark you...

Given the choice between people who don't care about lesbians but think they should have their sexuality respected, and people who don't care about lesbians and send them death and rape threats for not dating TW, I know which I'd choose.

This issue has taught me not to dismiss media outlets out of hand - as pp have said, GB News host Andrew Doyle and he's no swivel-eyed loon.

I've even softened my stance (slightly) on Toby Young with the Free Speech Union. Piers Morgan - even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

Kelvin McKenzie on the other hand, I wouldn't piss on if he were on fire. This will never change. I'd feel queasy to see a headline made out of him standing up for me.

Oh my. I think I've made the mistake of commenting without knowing everything Linehan has said and what has taken place, and not understanding all the intricacies of the controversy.

I'm a big Richard Ayoade fan. I love/d IT Crowd and everything he's done since. Don't really know anything about Linehan as what he says or does does not make it to US News.

Here's my understanding having read the article above--that Linehan has said controversial things about trans people, that Jonathan Ross and Richard Ayoade provided quotes in support of Linehan's book, and that others have taken offense to both Ross and Ayoade for having provided supportive quotes for Linehan's book. Certainly I could have missed something and be wrong on what's happened.

We in the US do use the term LGBTQ in an attempt, I suppose, not to leave anybody out, so I apologize if the use of that term is not acceptable. I had no idea that term itself is controversial to some who are included in it. I thought being accepting of and protecting the rights of everyone was the goal, and I believe that's why it's come to have so many letters.

I apologize for my lack of information and for ending up being offensive to you.

I should not have commented without knowing the whole series of events, which I still do not.

Sorry Sorry Sorry

@Ihavehadenoughalready just in future read what people actually write rather than edited, heavily edited, snippets and commentary from other people.

I know people who loathe and detest JKR and GL for 'what they've written' who haven't actually read it.

Never trust anyone to do your thinking for you. Not even us.

Thank you. I appreciate it, and definitely accept your apology.

Same here

On Richard Ayoade we’re getting closer to McCarthyism by the day

You said something nice about work from someone cancelled, down you go

How do you know how utterly evil GB news is if you refuse to listen to what they have to say?

This feels to me like you are proud of how closed minded and divorced from reality you are. A while back Triggernometry had Aaron Bastani on their show for an interview. Arron owns and runs Novarra Media a website where I pretty much disagree with anything and everything they say. I found watching Aaron on Triggernometry really interesting, he was very polite and honest, I got to understand his perspective a bit. It dispelled my metal image of him being an idiot, and I thought he came acroos as a good person. I'm glad I watched the episode.

When you dismiss a media outlet out of hand through blind tribalism you lock yourself into only ever hearing the news and opinions you want to hear. You are looking to have your own biases reenforced and choosing to live life in a bubble where you only ever hear people who agree with you. This is really unhealthy. It also promotes the tribalist la la la I can't hear you divisions in society. Your high horse isn't nearly as tall as you think it is and it's a braying donkey not a horse.

This is so true! Reas widely amd critically. Sure, some (all) outlets have an agenda. Some of the stuff in the DM is so transparent and some abhorrent. You don't "absorb" that stuff just by reading it though.

Whatever you personally think of GB news, they have been unrelenting in their support of women's spaces. Unlike almost all other news outlets. Dan Wootton in particular has been fantastic and unwavering.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/0/richard-ayoade-graham-linehan-book-trans-backlash/?li_source=LI&li_medium=liftigniter-rhr

" Why Richard Ayoade is too clever to be cancelled

A Graham Linehan book blurb has made the painfully shy comic an unlikely hate figure for trans activists. Have they picked the wrong target? "

There is an article about him in the telegraph, but unfortunately it has not been archived.

He seems to be related to the Fox acting dynasty by marriage.

You mean, kind of like how Andrew Tate got such a huge following? Say one or two things that kind of make sense, people listen attentively and THEN you can go on endless nonsensical rants?

Anyway, the trick with GB news is to only watch clips via your TikTok for you page. Sensible gender critical stuff only is fed to me

Anti LGBT rants?! You hope you can continue to enjoy his work?! God help me..🙄

In fairness this poster did apologise after they wrote that.

I'd say that it was set up to give voice to those people and perspectives that were not being covered by the likes of The Guardian and the BBC - not just to "exploit division".

Divison only exists if one set of perspectives is not permitted exposure, and if one set of people think they own the truth, and are so morally pure that they must close them down.

Well I feel embarrassed for you and your ridiculous assumptions. I have watched it and come to the conclusion I have employing my critical faculties and not losing my mind and objectivity just becaus they may adopt the same stance on an issue that I agree with. Stop being so hysterical and ironically judgmental. Objectively they have a nasty agenda - just look at their backers - and I think most decent people can see that so get off your high horse

Oh my goodness - now you’re going down the “good people on both sides” route. Dangerous. I’ll leave you to it

I do not think the word "Objectively" means what you think it means.
I think people tell you what to think and you swallow it because you have no thoughts of you own. For instance you re-used my high horse because you just parrot whatever you hear.

Stop being so hysterical and ironically judgmental.

Hysterical, on the FWR board? I thought the pamphlet for Feminism 101 explained why calling other women hysterical was not comme il faut. Or comme elle faut I suppose.

You’re beyond parody. I used your silly expression to show how ridiculous it is. You’re certainly still on your high horse and trying to force a narrative into someone you know nothing about. Keep watching your mind eroding nonsense - it’s showing. As for me, I have better things to read/learn from including - shock horror - sources diametrically opposed to what I believe in but not populist rubbish. Good luck with your journey down the rabbit hole!

How would you even know if they have other content that's worthwhile if you won't watch them?

No one can force you to agree with stuff you don't find convincing. Restricting your viewing in fear that it might is crazy.

Do you think children can be born in the wrong body then?

Do you think male rapists should be sharing prison spaces with vulnerable females?

Weird.

That's why I use TikTok. The algorithm sends me general GC stuff, then will throw in some GB News GC stuff. Then it goes, 'hmm, maybe Tibetan likes GB news' so feeds me more of their stuff.

It's quite an interesting take, because you're fed such tiny snippets and make a gut reaction judgement call on its value. Idgaf if watching/not watching GB news is acceptable on MN - but the majority of 'other' stuff fed to me on TikTok is so blatantly designed to be controversial to try and make themselves relevant/viral that it devalues whatever message they're trying to get across.

I might well agree with more of their views if I sat and watched it for a day, but I don't care enough. As far as I'm concerned they make their name from being goady and controversial, with presenters known for being so 'edgy and outspoken' they can't get work anywhere else.

You cannot see past yourself, can you?
We are talking about larger patterns. What division means, in practice. How it is fomented. It is you who is the divisive element here - with your accusations ands ignorant hostility.