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Removed from a DV support group due to trans issues, **talk of Abuse warning**

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Mommyisnotsilent · 05/09/2023 18:15

Hello everyone,

Not sure if this goes here but... Here we go. I'm a 40+ single mother of a three year old. I left an extremely abusive relationship of six years when she was a year old. It was bad...

Just to give you a bit of what happened... When our child was about a month old my ex forced me into the garage and held me there for several hours. I can't remember if I took the baby monitor or if he handed it to me but he did make sure that I had it. I begged and pleaded to be let back into the house. Our child was screaming... He's over a foot taller than me. At one point I attempted to push him away and he body checked me. I fell onto his precious sports car and he screamed at me for it. His reasoning for keeping me there was to "talk," about our relationship issues. He did this about three or four times in total. If I didn't go he would scream and wouldn't let me breast feed our child or would push and push and wouldn't stop. If I threatened to leave, or started to, he wouldn't let me call anyone and he wouldn't let me take the baby.

During pregnancy he was gone most of the time. However, I had a very high risk pregnancy. He would berate me the entire time when bringing me too and from the doctor's office. He would say, "You don't thank the oven you thank the chef," as a joke to anyone listening. He would tell all kinds of terrible jokes... "What do you call a woman with one black eye... har, har, har..." His hatred of women was very clear.

He would wake us both up at odd hours during the night by ahem having very loud alone time... Or turning on the lights and throwing open the closet door to "look for something." I wasn't allowed to have any money even though for the first two years I was financially supporting us. I kept twenty dollars from a card my mother sent me and he called it "stealing."

If you know, you know and if you don't I pray you never do.

When I escaped I took our child with me. My plan was to file for legal custody, I'm in the US. He quickly filed before me and with an attorney. He was always threatening to involve an attorney and he went through with it. A week after I was gone he moved in the man he had been cheating on me with during my entire pregnancy and after. No, he's not gay. He's bisexual.

A little bit before the first hearing took place he messaged me and demanded that I start calling him by female names and demand that I teach our daughter. When I asked if we could let it happen more naturally he blew up and started insulting me. "terrible mother, transphobic, homophobic..." And so on. Our child was already calling him, "da da." After the first visitation she stopped talking, I did get her into speech therapy later. My ex also demanded ALL of the female pronouns. I asked him if he could please pick one he refused and insulted me again.

I am now treated like a surrogate even though I have our daughter 85% of the time. He has admitted to wanting to take her from me and has stated that child support is extortion. I still have to endure post separation abuse. Welfare checks, some very late at night. Harassment, phone calls and messaging constant insults.

So... Before I had a one on one therapist I tried to find group therapy from a domestic violence organization. After the second virtual meeting I was told that I needed to call my ex abuser by she/her pronouns or stop attending. No one else in the group cared and I addressed others by their pronouns. However, I don't believe that I should have to respect this person's pronouns.

It doesn't matter if he is transgender or not. It doesn't matter that he lies about taking hormones or that he doesn't try passing or that he calls his boyfriend our child's daddy. It doesn't matter what he does and who he sleeps with or that he still hates women... I shouldn't be forced to call him by his chosen pronoun.

And if another person says, "Oh honey you just don't understand the trans issue and what they deal with. Let me get you a book or point you to this organization." I'm going to scream, loudly. I don't care what people call themselves and what they believe in or don't believe in as long as it's not hurting others... One of my good friends was trans and she didn't have the opportunity to transition before passing. She was like a grandmother to me and my ex refused to let me go to her funeral.

I will not celebrate my abuser.

OP posts:
namitynamechange · 05/09/2023 18:34

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IwantToRetire · 05/09/2023 18:36

Dear Mommyisnotsilent

So sorry to hear what you and your child have had to endure. And brilliant you have got away from him. And all too familiar that he is still trying to control you.

And using a trans identity to try and manipulate you and others to make out he is the victim.

I am not familiar with the support system for women escaping domestic violence in the US, and unfortunately some of the network of women's refuges in the UK have also signed up to the trans agenda.

I hope others on FWR will be able to offer you support.

But wondered if you had thought of posting your story on Letters from the Front on the WoLF web site. https://womensliberationfront.org/letters-from-the-front

It maybe that you can make connections in the US.

But absolutely as you have said I will not celebrate my abuser.

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Justme56 · 05/09/2023 18:40

It sounds like you have had a terrible time - so sorry. Maybe add a post to the Transwidow Escape Committee 6 thread. Having had partners who have transitioned they maybe able to offer support.

IwantToRetire · 05/09/2023 18:48

Justme56 · 05/09/2023 18:40

It sounds like you have had a terrible time - so sorry. Maybe add a post to the Transwidow Escape Committee 6 thread. Having had partners who have transitioned they maybe able to offer support.

Of course! https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4879982-trans-widows-escape-committee-6-the-next-generation

Raggammuffin · 05/09/2023 18:53

Omg you've been through hell. I completely agree with your position but for now, never mind that group that has lost its way. Concentrate on your own recovery. It's 16 years since I left my abusive x and I used to really upset when strangers (basically) would play devils advocate and say a child needs its father et cetera. They just wouldn't absorb that relevant piece of information. They were going to shame me regardless of the truth. It compounded my sense of injustice. It is absolutely enraging. Take care Flowers

ArabeIIaScott · 05/09/2023 19:38

My god, OP.

I'm so very, very sorry.

That arsehole. Fuck him and fuck the apologists.

I hope you're okay. Flowers

ArabeIIaScott · 05/09/2023 19:39

'I was told that I needed to call my ex abuser by she/her pronouns or stop attending' - these fucks. I am so angry on your behalf.

Can you access help elsewhere, OP?

ArabeIIaScott · 05/09/2023 19:39

Sorry for swears. It's the rage.

Mommyisnotsilent · 05/09/2023 20:12

Thank you for the replies everyone. I do have a therapist and a psychiatrist. Yup, I take meds for PTSD... I have a fair amount that I've been working on with my therapist who is trauma informed. It took me forever to find her. Next we're looking at trying out EMDR. I'm skeptical but hopeful.

Oh and I found a different DV organization no group therapy though. It's hard to find others you can relate to... It is so much more than trans stuff, that's just added BS that makes it all the more confusing.

Again, thank you.

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Helleofabore · 05/09/2023 20:33

OP That has been a nightmare. I hope that someone comes along who might have some further advice. Flowers

ZeldaFighter · 05/09/2023 20:37

I'm so sorry to hear this story but so proud of you for saving yourself and your daughter 💜 your strength is amazing. Don't worry about the group - use the other resources you have to heal. You got this!

Basilthymerosemary · 05/09/2023 20:55

The group sounds like it's run by morons.

Sending lots of hugs.

Imashamediknowthis · 05/09/2023 21:01

Hi. I'm so sorry to hear this has been done to you. If you want to vent beyond the Mumsnet limits, go to <newzealandfruit>farms.st, register using an anonymous email (ask or msg if you need more details) and search for the thread titled "Losing people to transgenderism support thread".
The site at large can be pretty rough (downside of a free-speech zone) but the support threads are robustly policed and you can scream your truth to a 100% sympathetic audience.

nepeta · 05/09/2023 21:43

So sorry for the horrible ordeal you have endured, and in total awe of your courage and strength. Hope your current support is good.

Pudmyboy · 05/09/2023 22:56

So sorry @Mommyisnotsilent , you deserve so much better, wishing you and your daughter good mental health, look after yourself 💐

ANameChangePresents · 05/09/2023 23:23

I haven't much more to say than <hugs>.

You're an incredibly strong individual to survive his abuse with such a strong anchor in material reality/confidence in the truth of the matter. I am in awe.

Grammarnut · 06/09/2023 10:38

IwantToRetire · 05/09/2023 18:36

Dear Mommyisnotsilent

So sorry to hear what you and your child have had to endure. And brilliant you have got away from him. And all too familiar that he is still trying to control you.

And using a trans identity to try and manipulate you and others to make out he is the victim.

I am not familiar with the support system for women escaping domestic violence in the US, and unfortunately some of the network of women's refuges in the UK have also signed up to the trans agenda.

I hope others on FWR will be able to offer you support.

But wondered if you had thought of posting your story on Letters from the Front on the WoLF web site. https://womensliberationfront.org/letters-from-the-front

It maybe that you can make connections in the US.

But absolutely as you have said I will not celebrate my abuser.

Edited

This.

And the DV support group were completely out of order. Not a support group at all from the sounds of it, but a set of TRAs.

Janie143 · 06/09/2023 11:14

Hi OP. EDMR worked brilliantly for my DD who was sexually assulted at 14 and had to go to court to give evidence. She wouldn't have been able to do that without EDMR and he was convited. 🤞it works for you

literalviolence · 08/09/2023 20:51

Clearly not a support group at all. So sorry OP. You were abused by this man and you were abused by the group facilitators.

You should not be forced to pretend that the man, who used his male privilege and body against you, is a woman. Anyone who tries to do that to you is abusive scum.

OhHolyJesus · 09/09/2023 07:34

I'm so sorry OP, it is indeed a hell you have lived through and in so pleased you have found hemp that actually helps rather than gaslights you.

Perhaps like how Bayswater is the go to for children caught up in this ideology, there is a need for non-affirming therapists for trans widows, a specific service which provides gender critical support.

If you need to scream, you do it as loud as you like. Flowers

Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/09/2023 08:26

literalviolence · 08/09/2023 20:51

Clearly not a support group at all. So sorry OP. You were abused by this man and you were abused by the group facilitators.

You should not be forced to pretend that the man, who used his male privilege and body against you, is a woman. Anyone who tries to do that to you is abusive scum.

This. So sorry you've been treated this way. These people are vile. Flowers

Heliotroper · 10/09/2023 08:45

You have the right attitude. Never let anyone add insults to your injury. He was able to bully you because he was male, exhibiting the worst kind of male behaviour. I suspect he knows this and is using the transition as some kind of get out clause.

You are not only a brave woman but a smart one too as refusing to buy this bullshit is integral to recovering from this nightmare both for you and others in this situation.

makeminealargeoneagain · 10/09/2023 09:07

So sorry that you were treated like this OP. Best wishes to you and your child. Getting away from him took real strength. X💐

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