So, someone at the Guardian has actually joined the dots and realised why mumsnet is full of feminists who just dont want men in our spaces

[GrabbyGabby]

Wonders will never cease

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/sep/04/mumsnet-motherhood-men-stories-abusers

I don't bother with the relationship board anymore most who post in them chats give good advice. I found the Step Mother boards interesting and controversial.

And MN is female dominated. If there were male relationship websites, we'd hear more about shitty women, because they certainly exist. They are not the same as shitty men, in general, but there is no shortage of women who are not good people to be in a relationship with.

You read the opening post and you know the shit that's about to be uncovered by the OP before the OP even realises it wasn't a one off that his cock accidentally fell into his mates wife's vagina.

Even my DH, who doesn't read Mumsnet but hears far too much about it from me, can guess the whole story just from me reading out the title of a post. Mumsnet has even radicalised him on the feminism side.

Bless her.

It's not hard though to join the dot she mentions only in passing - that women with bitter shared experience of the hard end, women from all walks of life with vulnerabilities understand why some women cannot use mixed sex spaces. And are not into sacrificing women under the bus of men getting the penis portion of life.

Yes me. I would not describe that as a positive article. She basically says "I had to stop reading because it turned me into a man hater". It's very passive aggressive

One wonders how the writer can possibly function around men given the ever-present news of male-pattern violence, sexual assault and murder in the mainstream media. If mumsnet is traumatising goodness knows how she copes with mainstream media.

I don't know what they've done to the board today but I was replying to longdutch

I think she labours the point to emphasise that she isn't part of MN now, so she can protect herself against any terfy-associations/accusations.

I didn't like the 'mumsnet will make you hate men vibe' as she's obsessively been looking at a section about relationship problems. I say this as someone who has experienced dv and have an abusive ex but I've not lost sense that not all men are abusive. Why would you need relationship advice when you're relationship is happy/good.

I am shocked; shocked, I tell you! 😀

Thinking about it more it's like if she went on a plumbing site and looked at a page about faulty toilets. She wouldn't then decide to not have a toilet, that all toilets are bad, and to declare the plumbing page 'bad' for her relations with toilets and associated mental health.

Indeed. If she’d spent all her time in Style & Beauty, rather than on the Relationships board, it would be a very different article. As she seems to have an addictive personality, it would probably have been an article about how she was in debt and had to give up MN to stop herself online clothes shopping.

I had absorbed so many horror stories, I was starting to view all men as potential abusers. I would find myself watching male friends, and my girlfriends’ husbands, scanning their behaviour for tells. If a man ever approached me, I’d assume he was a predator, attracted to my porous boundaries.

Those of us who grew up in families / environments with abusive men have been doing this all our lives. Checking for red flags and 'tells' is basic risk assessment. It hasn't affected my abilities to form great relationships with lovely men. In fact, it's enabled it.

😂

"Going through airport security makes me realise that all my fellow passengers are probably terrorists. After all if THEIR bags are being scanned, I must assume there's a high risk they have a bomb."

That was my assumption too

Thanks for sharing this OP. Not to derail, but did anyone else see this from the other day, also in the Graun:

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2023/aug/31/dining-across-the-divide-her-t-shirt-said-i-hope-you-like-feminist-rants-because-thats-what-youre-getting

It's a long running series but I thought a minor miracle that they included the trans part of the conversation at all.

It struck me as a really silly article, and ridiculously reductive and shallow regarding what MN actually is/offers.

I came here to say exactly this.
I was very excited at the thread title and the first few comments...
Then I read the article.

I was left with a very chilling feeling of a Peter Wilby-style effect. No, not related to paedophilia but in the way that there was just enough complimentary narrative for it to read as a sensible and balanced look at the value, and oft misunderstood aspects, of MN..... but the takeaway for me was that it was an echo chamber churning out men-hating radicalised women. With the unspoken implication (it's very much a hallmark of a Wilby article to slide one in) being that this will be why this bunch of women are so militant about protecting womanhood, in an ivory tower of righteousness, from anyone they see as unworthy.

Concern trolling, innit.

'Just a bunch of women terrified of men'

This is the sort of soft approach to condemning women who are fighting for single sex spaces. I've seen it quite a lot.

'These poor fragile delicate traumatised flowers have been so damaged by victimhood that they are now weaponising their trauma'

It's just as inaccurate and offensive as trying to paint us as bigots, tbh.

My thoughts are that this article may encourage an abusive man to monitor his wife / partner even more closely to ensure she’s not on Mumsnet. And woe betide if he discovers she has a friend, who is on here.

"We weren't sure about trans in women's sport, so thought they could be just left there"

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. I'm glad I'm not dating, because if that shit came up, I'd make my excuses and leave.

I can’t explain why Mumsnet’s content is so compulsive, only that it is.

😂

Yep. Online heroin.

I don't believe for a minute she's not still here. Just moved on from relationships board.