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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Woman visited by West Midlands police for taking a PHOTO of a sticker

76 replies

Jarnsaxa · 03/09/2023 13:51

Haven't seen a thread about this yet. A 73 year old woman woman who stopped to take a photograph of a sticker that said "Protect women's spaces" .has police on her doorstep accusing HER of causing 'alarm and distress' for taking a picture with her phone. Of a sticker.from daily mail

Pensioner quizzed over 'Stand By Your Trans' poster 'hate crime'

The incident happened in Hebden Bridge in West Yorkshire. Officers told the pensioner that she had been identified from CCTV footage.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12473521/Retired-social-worker-quizzed-hate-crime-police-sticker-Stand-Trans-poster.html#article-12473521

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 03/09/2023 13:55

It's West Yorkshire - who have form for harassing & silencing women

Dotcheck · 03/09/2023 13:58

So, they are investigating a crime that could happen.
Funny, when my (male) ex threatened me and vandalised my property, police decided it wasn’t a big enough crime

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 03/09/2023 13:59

It's incredible, isn't it. Women visited by the police and put on a database for non-crime hate incidents as a result of taking photographs or tying ribbons to railings. Men on parole after serving 30 years for torture and murder can address a huge crowd with a megaphone urging them if you see a TERF punch them in the face (with added obscenity) and that's all fine, just a funny joke.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 03/09/2023 14:05

This is the force with the embarrassing lesbian nana case where they inappropriately arrested an autistic girl?
Their clear up rate for burglaries is less than 10% with 91.3% of cases closed with no action taken - presumably because they're too busy harassing women and girls?

Ramblingnamechanger · 03/09/2023 14:15

Solidarity with that woman who could be one of several I know in Hebden. We must all get involved in this activity as much as possible!

ArcaneWireless · 03/09/2023 14:17

I take photos of stickers and posters and graffiti all the bloody time.

My personal favourite was one proclaiming “Nae mair pish”.

Which, if I’m not mistaken, fits this perfectly.

Just when you think an organisation or government body has peak-titted themselves, they manage to go even further.

It is a fucking skill.

Now, can you imagine if they chose to apply the same fervour to things that actually matter?

Absolutely incredible. A hate crime no less.

Only one bastard hate crime to see here.

BeeCucumber · 03/09/2023 14:25

Who was she “alarming and distressing”? Who made the complaint? Who was the victim of this crime?

FroodwithaKaren · 03/09/2023 14:40

😂

I hope someone tweets that to Suella Braverman in conjunction with her letter today to the police.

The government kind of need to realise that they're closing the stable door several years after the last time anyone saw the horse.

IwantToRetire · 03/09/2023 14:47

I thought this must be a second example as on another thread? a thread of its own? this action was posted. I didnt realise West Yorkshire is part of the Midlands, according to the police!

So am glad to know it isn't something that other police forces are doing.

And it deserves to be made public as it is the most extreme example of just how much the police are puppets of the TRA fanatics.

Or is this just old fashioned sexism. Old woman must be a terf. Must be publicly scolded.

For all anyone knew she was taking a photo to report a poster being "defaced".

But that's the magic of trans. Not only can you identify yourself into and out of just about any identity, but you can also mind read and correctly analysis intentions.

IwantToRetire · 03/09/2023 14:56

I see that this has been highlighted as an example by Suella Braverman to show why she has written to the police about being impartial. They probably hate her anyway, but having that exposure on her twitter account might make them think before they act like this again.

And as said so often in Happy Valley tv series "twats".

TheGreatATuin · 03/09/2023 14:57

I think this is one that needs to be challenged in court and even beyond that. This is so over the top and sinister that I think there needs to be a broader inquiry.
They didn't just visit her. They recorded it as a non-crime hate incident in her name.
All she did was take a photo of a sticker. She didn't share it or comment on it. Just took a photo.
The implications of this are enormous.
If any one of us screenshot something on here or twitter, whether we agreed with it or not, is that non eligible for recording?
Where is the boundary? If she hadn't photographed it, would it still be an incident? I suspect so. It was reported by people from inside the organisation. I suspect they'd have reported her if she'd simply put on her glasses for a closer look.
Looking at things in public is not hateful and there are no circumstances in which the police should be recording anyone's names for doing it.

TheGreatATuin · 03/09/2023 15:05

Having looked closer at Suella Braverrman's announcement, it looks like she's on the case.
I can't believe it's the Tories looking after women, but I will take it with bells on.

DOBARDAN · 03/09/2023 15:12

Oh please, somebody wake me up and tell me this is all a bad dream ...

MrsOvertonsWindow · 03/09/2023 15:28

TheGreatATuin · 03/09/2023 15:05

Having looked closer at Suella Braverrman's announcement, it looks like she's on the case.
I can't believe it's the Tories looking after women, but I will take it with bells on.

Fair Cop have been on the case:

https://twitter.com/WeAreFairCop/status/1698025806847500740

https://twitter.com/WeAreFairCop/status/1698025806847500740

Santiagopink · 03/09/2023 15:33

Fucking hell. Lancashire Police apparently can't do anything about the couple, with previous, dealing drugs from my property and aren't interested in the exact location of the storage of a literal shed load of stolen goods because they can't prove its stolen, nor do they care about the repeated threats they are making to my family as so far they've not done anything. But they actually looked through cctv to identify this poor lady taking a photograph?? Unfuckingbelievable.

guinnessguzzler · 03/09/2023 15:38

Did the Mail use the photo she took for the article? Or did they take their own? The police may need to make some more arrests!😂

But seriously, wtf?! It really is scary.

Beamur · 03/09/2023 15:41

I was lucky not to get caught looking at one just up the road in Todmorden a few weeks ago.
Hotbed of sticker and local action.
See the threads about Cathy Boardman..

WomenShouldStillWinWomensSports · 03/09/2023 15:43

West Yorkshire Police have such a terrible track record with dealing appropriately with domestic abuse, grooming, paedos, FGM, forced marriage, and trafficking of young girls that they should just give up as they'd probably make more of a difference to women's lives if they all just went home and opened a chip shop or something.

StefanosHill · 03/09/2023 15:47

Utter madness

FroodwithaKaren · 03/09/2023 16:13

Santiagopink · 03/09/2023 15:33

Fucking hell. Lancashire Police apparently can't do anything about the couple, with previous, dealing drugs from my property and aren't interested in the exact location of the storage of a literal shed load of stolen goods because they can't prove its stolen, nor do they care about the repeated threats they are making to my family as so far they've not done anything. But they actually looked through cctv to identify this poor lady taking a photograph?? Unfuckingbelievable.

This in a nutshell. It's exactly what Braverman is talking about.

The perception this creates is of energised, enthusiastic huge commitment of effort and time and resources to chasing political issues for the TQ+ lobby (not TQ people as many of the loudest, most public and well known TQ+ activist voices aren't themselves TQ at all, they just find it a really useful bandwagon to be riding) that are not in fact criminal at all, when normal actual criminal activity happening to normal people? Yeah they haven't time or resources and can't be buggered.

And this perception has some truth to it.

We also know from long experience, and these are just the cases that have escaped into the media, that either CPS eventually admit it won't stand up in court, or if it gets into a court room, a judge clearly and loudly finds in favour of the actual law and that this is not lawful or acceptable.

But the process is used as the punishment. It takes years to get inside a court room, it takes huge expense, huge stress, and in the meantime there is the punishment of a person being questioned, frightened, intimidated when they did not break the fucking law, they just displeased a political movement by challenging their authority and control .

This needs a public inquiry and stamping on. Hard.

SerendipityJane · 03/09/2023 17:53

I thought Suella Braverman had solved all this ?

littleripper · 03/09/2023 17:56

Hebden fucking bridge

RoyalCorgi · 03/09/2023 18:01

MrsOvertonsWindow · 03/09/2023 13:55

It's West Yorkshire - who have form for harassing & silencing women

It's ALWAYS West Yorkshire. Well, almost always.

RealityFan · 03/09/2023 18:03

SerendipityJane · 03/09/2023 17:53

I thought Suella Braverman had solved all this ?

Oh yes, those memos.
Ones from Steve Barclay to the NHS heads.
Ones from the recently departed Ben Wallace to the Army heads.
Ones from Suella Braverman to the police heads.

All that letter writing to so little effect.

RudsyFarmer · 03/09/2023 18:05

TheGreatATuin · 03/09/2023 14:57

I think this is one that needs to be challenged in court and even beyond that. This is so over the top and sinister that I think there needs to be a broader inquiry.
They didn't just visit her. They recorded it as a non-crime hate incident in her name.
All she did was take a photo of a sticker. She didn't share it or comment on it. Just took a photo.
The implications of this are enormous.
If any one of us screenshot something on here or twitter, whether we agreed with it or not, is that non eligible for recording?
Where is the boundary? If she hadn't photographed it, would it still be an incident? I suspect so. It was reported by people from inside the organisation. I suspect they'd have reported her if she'd simply put on her glasses for a closer look.
Looking at things in public is not hateful and there are no circumstances in which the police should be recording anyone's names for doing it.

You’re correct. What if she was seen to be looking at it with a positive expression on her face and someone who saw that felt upset? Hate crime?

What if she pointed at it whilst nodding or laid her hand on it whilst knocking a stone out of a shoe? What if she walked past it whilst laughing with a friend or decided to put glasses on her face to read it and didn’t gasp in horror abd immediately vomit?

Just where is this tenuous line?

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