Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

I’ll ask this here too, on the other board things got weird fast: Is there like a (support) group or something I can donate to or help for single and childless women?

33 replies

OnedayTwodays · 31/08/2023 14:11

Maybe seems like a weird question, but I was wondering.
Partly because that is a group I’d like to help and partly to perhaps meet other women like me who are in a same situation and support each other.

OP posts:
Pudmyboy · 31/08/2023 14:32

Very interesting OP, I am in your situation but don't have any advice off the top of my head, I will be interested to see if anyone can suggest anything

Coyoacan · 31/08/2023 14:33

I think you might need to narrow down your demographic, because the vast majority of 18-year-old females qualify.

And assuming that you are talking about an older group, why do you feel they/you need donations?

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 31/08/2023 14:37

Clarifying your aim might be more use than shifting boards (then try the childfree board).

Do you want to meet people (if so, who and why) or donate cash (to meet what need)?

What do you want/think they need support with, and why?

PomegranateOfPersephone · 31/08/2023 14:42

Is it because you find it emotionally difficult to be single and child free and that you’re wondering if there is a charity running local groups for single and child free women to meet up?

Being single and child free should in theory make you less financially in need. Surely single mothers have a much harder time financially and practically than women who are single and child free.

I’m interested to know more. I suspect though that you might need to set up such an organisation if you want it to specifically target that cohort.

You might meet women who are single and child free through other organisations though such as women’s sports, gyms, choirs or even volunteering with GirlGuiding or going to the WI.

Luana1 · 31/08/2023 14:52

There must be millions of women who are under the age of 30 and are single and childfree. Do you mean an older demographic for whom children are no longer possible? What do you think donations would be needed for? I know there is an organisation called Gateway Women who are a support group but I’ve no idea if they accept donations.

OnedayTwodays · 31/08/2023 15:24

Is it because you find it emotionally difficult to be single and child free and that you’re wondering if there is a charity running local groups for single and child free women to meet up?

’Emotionally difficult’, that was very well said.

I guess mostly wondering for support / find like-minded people.

I think because I’ve been in a very, very low income, still don’t make much, so I got into my head that many single women have it hard (on the other board I got comments like yes donate cahmere and gold) financially, the whole single women are jet-setting and partying it ip just isin’t my reality at all.
So that’s why I was wondering if there is any way to help a little at least.

And I do feel there is still stigma about being childfree and single.
It’s also very lonely and isolating as the years go by.
A lot of celecrating other people’s lives and things don’t even out.

I guess this is the thing that has been sp diffucult for me, so wondered if there is a way to help other’s / each other. Kind of like when a person or their loved one has cancer for example and then that becomes important cause for them.

About the age, I didn’t think of that. I guess it would be for little bit older, don’t have to be only about elderly.
I never had any luck, so that’s why I didn’t think of the age. It was really bad from young age, since everyone’s very obssessed about dating and stuff, so left me alone a lot from young age.

OP posts:
IwantToRetire · 31/08/2023 16:14

I dont know of any groups, but will try and think of some.

But am mainly posting because ironically, for maybe the wrong reasons, there used to be lots of charities and trust aimed at helping single women. There used to be one called "distressed gentle women" because as you say it is more than likely that single older women will have less income and less financial security.

Some of the early housing settlements (before there were Coops and HAs) were aimed at helping single women. So just to say your request seems totally obvious.

However (as I am not sure what other board you mean - the "chat" one) if you have read threads on here (FWR) you will know there are more problems now that there used to be in women setting up groups for women.

You may find joining a group what has a particular focus, such as a book club, or (heavenknows why anyone would) wild swimming and so on. When there used to be Adult Education (I dont think that exists anymore) attending an evening class would often bring you into contact with other single women.

And in fact volunteering will often mean working with other women.

Are you in a city or town? I can imagine if you are living in quite a rural area it would be very difficult.

Good luck, I am sure you will find something.

FWR can be a bit daunting sometimes but there is a wide range of experience and knowledge which hopefully will be shared with you.

Coyoacan · 31/08/2023 17:07

What a lovely answer, @IwantToRetire

IwantToRetire · 31/08/2023 19:59

Have found this short list of some charities but not sure of their locations etc..
https://restless.co.uk/money/everyday-finance/five-charities-that-help-women-in-need/

When using google (maybe I should try something else) it assumes it is about women who have found they are unable to get pregnant. I wonder if during the 20s and 30s because of the massive number of deaths in WWI it became something that people were aware of, but maybe didn't name, that many more women than in previous times would be childless spinsters.

(Had a look at the Gateway site and it made me think it was US based but I think it is UK and Ireland.)

Six charities that help women in need - Rest Less

Women can end up in financial difficulty for all kinds of reasons: illness, breakdown of a relationship or losing their job. There is some state help available but there are also some charities that help women in need. Below is a list of charities that...

https://restless.co.uk/money/everyday-finance/five-charities-that-help-women-in-need

BlessedKali · 31/08/2023 22:15

I mean this kindly - If you are low income without dependants then why not find a way to improve your employability? train, study, find a way to move into a better paid job rather then look for handouts? We are all responsible for our own lives, and all responsible for what we make of them. That said there are some groups which will have barriers to this - refugees, those with disabilities, single mothers, victims of trauma, etc. That's why charities do exist for those demographics.

I wish you lots of luck finding friends in a similiar situation xx

MentholLoad · 31/08/2023 22:23

wouldn't single women without children have increased earning potential, compared to those WITH children? or do you mean to fund social inclusion type events/activities?

IwantToRetire · 01/09/2023 00:44

Why are there posts about asking for handouts?

Have your read the OP?

Where is she asking for handouts?

She is asking where she can make a donation.

And even if she wasn't and was asking for help it's hugely presumptive to think that if someone was asking for help they hadn't already done as much as they could.

But on the other point about making contact with other women, as we all know from many different threads on FWR it is really difficult, particularly if you are looking for something that is by and for women.

In the meantime ...

Does anyone know of any charities helping isolated single women - if so why not share that info for the OP as asked for

BlackeyedSusan · 01/09/2023 01:11

When I was young there were several old single ladies who lost sweethearts in the great war attending the church I went to.

There are a couple of single ladies at the church I attend now.

There does need to be some sort of social support for those who want something non faith based.

I didn't meet ex til my thirties it started to be difficult being single quite early on. I think there is a need for something to support single women. It is very different to single parenting.

Beowulfa · 01/09/2023 09:42

I was very depressed about being single in my early 30s. I often thought that I'd make quite a good nun, without the religious element. I like the idea of a community of women, like a nunnery, bound by a commitment to mutual support, pooling their skills.

DerekFaker · 01/09/2023 12:59

I see some of the weirdness has followed you here, OP.

I hope you find what you're looking for, and can ignore the unhelpful posts xx

YetAnotherSpartacus · 01/09/2023 13:55

You are quite right OP. On the whole, women make less money than men and it is very, very hard for a low-waged single woman to live comfortably or save for a housing deposit. I think that the key issue here is low-waged (or even medium waged).

DysonSpheres · 01/09/2023 14:51

I used to know someone, a single parent, about 11 or so years ago, who had a weekly meeting for women in the community her home. She was seen as a bit eccentric, but was also very involved in the community and her local church. It was interesting. One woman bought a spinning wheel in and carded her wool while the meeting progressed.

Children and babies were allowed, women often breastfed totally relaxed (I liked that about it) so it wasn't exclusively for single women. Someone would cook, and they chatted about anything and everything.

If you have a space in your home, or can rent a space in a local community hall, why not set up something? Advertise locally to begin with.

It would need a bit of initial focus and then could evolve naturally from there...

IwantToRetire · 01/09/2023 16:03

I hope this isn't seen as a tangent but one of the problems (well in the UK and maybe other western economies) is that so much of commerce is based on couples or couples with children.

So all sorts of deals mean that if you are single you end up paying more.

I saw a cruise (not something I would consider but was visiting the islands north of Scotland) and thought even though I would probably hate everyone else on the cruise(!!) I would love to go. No hassle with long trains journeys, buses to remote places. Just wake up in the morning and there would be a whole new island, port whatever.

But of course you have to pay a single supplement, and this whilst they were offer 2nd person half price to couples. Added to which, because I checked on the plan of the boat, the single room wasn't even half the size of the double. (I think there are some travel companies that provide trips etc., for single people but usually in off peak periods.)

But this is just an example of how as a single person, and as a woman you are likely to have a lower income, society and businesses can actually make you feel unwanted and / or over charged.

PomegranateOfPersephone · 01/09/2023 16:14

DysonSpheres · 01/09/2023 14:51

I used to know someone, a single parent, about 11 or so years ago, who had a weekly meeting for women in the community her home. She was seen as a bit eccentric, but was also very involved in the community and her local church. It was interesting. One woman bought a spinning wheel in and carded her wool while the meeting progressed.

Children and babies were allowed, women often breastfed totally relaxed (I liked that about it) so it wasn't exclusively for single women. Someone would cook, and they chatted about anything and everything.

If you have a space in your home, or can rent a space in a local community hall, why not set up something? Advertise locally to begin with.

It would need a bit of initial focus and then could evolve naturally from there...

This sounds amazing! What a wonderful idea!

Cynicaltheorist · 01/09/2023 16:37

How about joining a feminist group, OP, one where you'll find other women who talk about these issues? Is there a Women's Centre in your area? See what they have to offer.

I'd also suggest you investigate the opportunities for improving your skills so that you have a chance of better-paid work. A charity might give you a handout once, but if you can find training and confidence-building opportunities you're set for life. Good luck.

IwantToRetire · 01/09/2023 16:41

I'd also suggest you investigate the opportunities for improving your skills so that you have a chance of better-paid work. A charity might give you a handout once, but if you can find training and confidence-building opportunities you're set for life. Good luck.

AS said upthread and original OP. She is NOT asking for a handout. She is talking about making donations.

What a shame having posted on the "chat feminism" and got weird responses she posted on FWR and also get weird responses.

No wonder she's not been back.

PomegranateOfPersephone · 01/09/2023 19:29

Good idea CynicalTheorist, FiLia, Standing for Women and the Women’s Rights Network all have local groups I think, they might be good starting points for finding the sort of thing which you are looking for @OnedayTwodays if they don’t quite satisfy the needs exactly on their own.