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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
bellac11 · 30/08/2023 19:53

Pretty lady

IcakethereforeIam · 30/08/2023 19:55

POGD, lot of it about.

FionnulaTheCooler · 30/08/2023 19:57

"Carter, who has five convictions for six past offences, was given a six-month prison sentence suspended for 18 months"

Ffs. How many times does this vile person have to offend to get more than a slap on the wrist.

Middlelanehogger · 30/08/2023 19:57

Why does the Daily Mail bother with the pronoun game? It must surely piss off their entire readership?

Snowypeaks · 30/08/2023 19:58

Extraordinary.
Why is alcohol and drug abuse being put forward as a mitigating factor by the defence?
Why does a man who has contributed to the abuse of countless children not have to go to jail?
And five years on the register? Why not for life? It's not as if he's going to start stamp-collecting instead.
Kids, you don't matter, is what this is saying.

Also, I am fed up to the back teeth of the Daily Mail scrupulously adhering to wrong sex pronouns for men like this - the press guidelines are voluntary. Or they could use they/them at a push. Other news outlets manage it. No need to gaslight women, especially when the crime is so revolting.

Rightsraptor · 30/08/2023 19:59

Sophie Louise, huh? I can tell from the headless, legless photo that ain't no Sophie Louise.

Theimpossiblegirl · 30/08/2023 20:00

I think the DM is being sarcastic.

This is ridiculous. How can he be allowed to get off so lightly. I hope this doesn't count as a female crime in stats.

NotTerfNorCis · 30/08/2023 20:02

I hope this doesn't count as a female crime in stats

There needs to be legislation to stop this happening.

PaperWalkAndTalk · 30/08/2023 20:02

Middlelanehogger · 30/08/2023 19:57

Why does the Daily Mail bother with the pronoun game? It must surely piss off their entire readership?

Required to by the press regulator I believe. Please correct if wrong!

ChristinaXYZ · 30/08/2023 20:04

The repeated offending and yet such a low sentence despite the contribution to the coffers of those involved in the revolting trade of images of real, abused children. It is just awful to suspend sentences for child abuse images.

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 30/08/2023 20:06

I'm glad they're playing the pronoun game in this report. It sort of really shows up the travesty that it is, that person is no she so its even more jarring and enforces how ridiculous it is.

Screamingabdabz · 30/08/2023 20:06

In other news, interfere with a cow and you get the full force of the law. Kids? Nah not important enough.

I note his styling of his femininity is a token effort. Just enough to draw on any useful dispensation. Sick fucker.

Gcfemale · 30/08/2023 20:06

Did they decide the day before the hearing to identify as a woman, because let's face it, not much effort made....oh sorry forgot the nail varnish, so will completely see that they are a woman despite the beard.

Clymene · 30/08/2023 20:06

I wonder what his other convictions were for?

Weird how many men have mental health and addiction issues and become paedophiles isn't it? Eric Joyce claimed that's why he enjoyed watching videos of babies being raped too I believe.

I don't recall women doing that.

I'm glad this bloke's wife has a lot more sense than that stupid rape apologist India Knight.

Chersfrozenface · 30/08/2023 20:09

Middlelanehogger · 30/08/2023 19:57

Why does the Daily Mail bother with the pronoun game? It must surely piss off their entire readership?

As a PP has said, because of the IPSO guidelines.

Also because the DM knows its readers have eyes and can see from the juxtaposed photo how nonsensical the pronouns are.

Middlelanehogger · 30/08/2023 20:09

PaperWalkAndTalk · 30/08/2023 20:02

Required to by the press regulator I believe. Please correct if wrong!

What bad things would happen if they just... didn't comply?

Chersfrozenface · 30/08/2023 20:14

Middlelanehogger · 30/08/2023 20:09

What bad things would happen if they just... didn't comply?

They would be forced to publish an apology at best.

At worst they could be fined. IPSO has the power to levy fines of up to £1 million.

SabrinaThwaite · 30/08/2023 20:16

I wonder what his other convictions were for?

Assault in August 2016, and ABH and criminal damage in July 2021.

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 30/08/2023 20:17

A useful bit of digital-footprint connection for the old and new names.

Clymene · 30/08/2023 20:18

SabrinaThwaite · 30/08/2023 20:16

I wonder what his other convictions were for?

Assault in August 2016, and ABH and criminal damage in July 2021.

How feminine!

Chersfrozenface · 31/08/2023 08:58

But IPSO has a Complaints Committee which "judges complaints relating to potential breaches of the Editors’ Code and decides on what a newspaper or magazine should do if the Code has been breached, including whether or not to find that publication of a correction or critical ruling is needed to remedy a breach of the Code, and where this should appear."

The current guidance is here and has examples of the Committee:s decisions.
https://www.ipso.co.uk/resources-and-guidance/sex-and-gender-identity-guidance/

Also IPSO's Board can decide to undertake a standards investigation to investigate where it has serious concerns about the behaviour or actions of one or more of its members, as a result of which it can take various actions, including imposing fines.
https://www.ipso.co.uk/monitoring/standards-investigations/

NotBadConsidering · 31/08/2023 09:15

Nothing would happen. People - maybe the paedophile himself, or TRAs who happily ignore a person’s transgressions over the horror of misgendering - would complain to IPSO. IPSO would investigate. The Daily Mail would - should - defend itself vigorously and with its plentiful means and publish is front page headline about how there are people trying to get them to call a paedophile “she” which would draw more and more attention to the fact that there are trans people who are paedophiles. Given TRAs like to pretend “this never happens” no one is likely to push it.

So the Daily Mail should just tell ISPO where to shove it and report it properly, instead of playing a silly game of sarcastically reporting to highlight how much nonsense it is to call a male sex offender “she”.

FannyCann · 31/08/2023 09:16

IcakethereforeIam · 30/08/2023 19:55

POGD, lot of it about.

Yes there is.

This article about it in the Telegraph goes on to highlight another case.

digitaleditions.telegraph.co.uk/data/1446/reader/reader.html?social#!preferred/0/package/1446/pub/1446/page/44/article/NaN

Sorry, telegraph doesn't do share tokens and for some reason the archive site isn't working for me today.

In July, a trans paedophile caught with indecent images of children was spared jail after her case was delayed so a decision could be made on whether she should be housed in a male or female prison.
"Tanya Howes, 66, was told by magistrates that the offences “would normally attract immediate custody”, but they had decided to suspend a 12-month jail term, after lengthy delays to her case.
On Tuesday, Howes was sentenced at Norwich magistrates’ court to 12 months’ imprisonment, suspended for two years.
Ian Taylor, chairman of the bench of magistrates, said: “These offences would normally attract immediate custody. However, because of the time lag, no reoffending and because probation feel they can rehabilitate you, it’s going to be an unusual sentence because we’re going to suspend the sentence.”"

Another suspended sentence. Perhaps it's the new ruse to avoid arguments about men in women's prisons. Just don't send them to prison.

JaninaDuszejko · 31/08/2023 09:25

I'm quite happy for the DM to report these cases like this. They have both names this paedophile has used in the article and a photo. Nobody who reads that can be in any doubt about what is happening here.

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