I think the Daily Mail, and the tree surgeon, know exactly what they are doing here. CSE images.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12461091/Paedophile-tree-surgeon-spared-jail.html

So pink. So feminine.

This one is good as its clearly a male. I saw one recently when there was no pic but described as 'she' throughout and no mention that person was not actually female. Reporter feigned ignorance.

I do think articles should have a disclaimer explaining why they have to refer to male as 'she'. I also think courts should only ever use pronouns associated with legal sex. Its a court of law for gods sake - it needs to be accurate. (GRC makes it difficult but very few people have one of them).

Ah, well, there is a bit of s problem with the criminal justice system in this regard.

Crown Prosecution Service
https://www.cps.gov.uk/publication/trans-equality-statement

Judiciary
https://www.judiciary.uk/about-the-judiciary/diversity/equal-treatment-bench-book/

It must! I used to think it was because they were following the IPSO guidance, but the IPSO guidance has been relaxed recently, so I think, as a couple of PPs have suggested, they are simply taking the piss. It shows how absurd the whole thing is. I don't necessarily think it's good for their reputation, though.

The DM adhere to the guidelines to show how ridiculous this situation is.
'I'm a lady, I'll wear pink, that will do it. Works for Eddie Izard'

Got it in one!

Thats the point!

Daily Mail thwe en get to say 'oh well we were forced to do this by wokies', whilst making sure everyone knows exactly who what sex someone is by other means.

Storytelling in newspapers isn't purely about the words used. I remember doing GCSE media studies and how you'd be given a picture and then told to write something / crop the picture to reframe the story or give it a completely different meaning. And then studying a real story and how the same picture was used in different newspapers to tell a very different story.

This is basic level stuff for newspapers.

I find it curious people saying 'why don't they just tell IPSO to shove it?'

The point is they don't need to. They can tell the story to greater effect WITHOUT doing that, because they can feed the anger about how we aren't allowed to tell the truth and say thats a male paedo. Instead we see a transwoman who is a paedo. In truth thats FAR WORSE for TRAs because it undermines trust and feeds concerns (quite rightly it would seem given the figures on convicted sex offenders who transition). This 'protecting trans people' nonsense, really is shown up because the Mail then gets to say with their hands held up 'but we ARE treating all transwomen equally and with respect'. It IS pointing out that you can't pick and choose who are the good guys (sic) and the fakers taking advantage of the system.

The Mail is telling its readers this is the consequence of allowing men to self identify and that anyone who says they are a women is a woman. Its a deliberate holding up of the mirror to TWAW.

They KNOW that everyone looking at the picture and seeing it clash with the words will 'get it' and will be angry.

Its playing the fools at their own game, and I think its probably just as effective as challenging it head on because it stirs up emotion in a way that being logical and challenging wouldn't. It then gets to say it is doing all 'the right things its supposed to'.

I thought the policy now was to send all male sex offenders to men's prisons. Have I misunderstood? Is it not in force yet?

Indeed,very glam.

ALL male prisoners should be sent to the men's prison
Nothing else makes sense.

Very plausible explanation, but I worry that the more you use "she" for male people, the more those on the outside will believe that males who claim to be women are sort of women, or at least not entirely men. Regardless of the paper's intentions, or the context. Giving currency to innately ridiculous and self-contradictory concepts like "male women" is going to make it harder to reverse our losses.

I think TBH that the DM uses the female pronouns to make it absolutely clear (when combined with the photos) that this is a male person pretending to be female. It's not just a male person who happens to like pink. The pretence really exists in the language used. If female pronouns aren't used then it's just a man in women's clothes.

I also think they're doing it because it gets across the message that transwomen are male - lots of people think that transwomen are female people who are trans so really are women - and should therefore be in female changing rooms/sports etc.

So a long history of abusing kids is pretty much forgiven as long as the abuser wears pink and calls himself a girly name?

But shag a cow and it’s straight to jail do not pass go do not collect £200

And no I’m not making light of the animal abuser but it’s the double standards

It's obvious that perverts are putting pink clothes on to avoid getting sent to prison for their depraved crimes. Why do the judges go along with it, though, that's the question?

Presumably this means if he's found guilty he's convicted under his 'female' name, which means that that's the name that goes on the sex offenders register and he's then free to return to his male name and potentially be free to offend again?

'Paedophile changes gender before court case. Sophie Carter, formerly Dominic, attends court in a pink T-shirt and shorts after being caught with 11 indecent images of children'

The Daily Telegraph leaves its readers in no doubt. Also with photo of obvious male dressed in pink.

This is in my local area, looks like he was charged under his real name and it was disclosed in court that he’s now a woman (it’s easy to see why, just look at his lovely pink ensamble)

Fed up of this bullshit.

https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/23753545.lee-on-the-solent-paedophile-indecent-images-phone/

Sentences for possessing CSA images frequently end up being suspended, unfortunately.

A guy I used to work with was found guilty of having nearly 1000 images, hundreds in the most serious category (including both CSA and bestiality images and videos) - he got a suspended sentence. Judge said that he didn't think that jail was appropriate, and thought that rehabilitation was a realistic prospect. The paedo moved out of the area, where presumably his new neighbours are oblivious.

I think that the sentencing guidelines aren't as strong as most of us would like, regardless of whether the paedo is male, or man identifying as a woman.

I think that's probably the point.

And it also makes it crystal clear what is actually happening. You'll notice they were VERY clear that he was charged as a man. But that we are now to refer to him as her.

Add that to the photos... I mean he's not even trying. Those clothes are ordinary men's clothes dyed pink ffs. And he didn't even shave.

Redduxx:

his legal counsel stating: “Miss Carter has now separated from her now ex-wife… The root cause of the mental health issues is this case.”

This man is local to me and is always seen hanging about the streets or beaches. Saw him on the bus the other day which must have been a few days before court- dressed as a man, talking like a man and behaving like a man. Had a lot of shopping bags, maybe had been out buying the costume😡