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Update from Jo Phoenix

293 replies

Imnobody4 · 18/08/2023 17:45

Sorry can't find the previous thread. I thought someone might like to attend. 18 witnesses!! Bet that's just a tactic to intimidate.

https://twitter.com/JoPhoenix1/status/1692558010323702045?t=O8s-xIF3iu564FVwyaYEhg&s=19

NEWSFLASH

45 days to go.

I received news this week that the venue for my hearing has changed. It is now at Watford Tribunal Centre, 2nd floor, Radius House, 51 Clarendon Road, Watford. It will be in an open court (i.e. members of the public are allowed to attend). The dates remain the same.

The case starts on 2nd October with reading and preliminary issues. Evidence-giving starts on 3rd October. At present, I still do not know the exact number of witnesses the OU is calling. In the preliminary case hearing, the OU's representative claimed that they would like to call 18. We are scheduled to exchange witness statements at the end of next week (25th August) and it is then that I will know if all of those 18 witnesses are, indeed, being called to give evidence.

https://twitter.com/JoPhoenix1/status/1692558010323702045?s=19&t=O8s-xIF3iu564FVwyaYEhg

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Rainbowshit · 22/01/2024 17:36

Amazing news!!!

Lovesplasticstraws · 22/01/2024 17:40

Amazing news! Well done Jo.
I followed along all 18 batshit witnesses. So pleased.

TeenDivided · 22/01/2024 17:44

Brilliant.

(what does inter alia mean?)

Ramblingnamechanger · 22/01/2024 17:44

Excellent news…well done Jo. More light shed again. Thank you

HagoftheNorth · 22/01/2024 17:45

When the tribunal started, the OU saw fit to issue communications signposting students & staff affected (ie GI) to support. Nothing today though?! And nothing for GC staff or students. I wonder if they will revisit that approach?

SinnerBoy · 22/01/2024 17:50

TeenDivided · Today 17:44

(what does inter alia mean?)

Amongst other things.

Anyway, well done, Jo! I congratulated you on Twitter and repeat it here - you totally deserved to be vindicated.

Madcats · 22/01/2024 17:52

Yay!

Thestruggler · 22/01/2024 17:54

Well this just made me smile after a shit day at my captured place of work

CloudyAgain · 22/01/2024 17:54

Fucking awesome Jo.

I'd buy you the biggest bottle of fizz myself if I could.

Thanks
Redshoeblueshoe · 22/01/2024 17:57

Congratulations Jo

DialSquare · 22/01/2024 18:00

Brilliant news. Congratulations Jo.

ReadtheReviews · 22/01/2024 18:00

Somehow missed all this, so read the first twenty posts then the last few! Brilliant and relief!

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 22/01/2024 18:01

Brilliant news Jo.

Hopefully other Universities are taking note.

turbonerd · 22/01/2024 18:08

💐💐🍰🫖

GoodOldEmmaNess · 22/01/2024 18:09

Fantastic newsFlowers

LiesDoNotBecomeUs · 22/01/2024 18:17

I think we expressed some of the same feelings about certain witness statements but the judge has used words like surgical instruments here:

22 We had in mind that the majority of the witnesses we heard from were
academics. These were professionals who had been trained in the
methodology of research and presentation of fact and analysis producing
argument. We expected a certain basic level of rigour in presenting the
evidence before the Employment Tribunal. There were some witnesses who
we address below in our findings who did not meet this standard.

PerkingFaintly · 22/01/2024 18:22

LiesDoNotBecomeUs · 22/01/2024 18:17

I think we expressed some of the same feelings about certain witness statements but the judge has used words like surgical instruments here:

22 We had in mind that the majority of the witnesses we heard from were
academics. These were professionals who had been trained in the
methodology of research and presentation of fact and analysis producing
argument. We expected a certain basic level of rigour in presenting the
evidence before the Employment Tribunal. There were some witnesses who
we address below in our findings who did not meet this standard.

Dear me.😂

I read along with a few days of the tribunal (thank you all those providing reportage here), and, well, yes, he puts that nicely. In the old-fashioned sense of the word as well as the modern one...

chilling19 · 22/01/2024 18:26

Yes!!!! 👏👏👏👏👏

chilling19 · 22/01/2024 18:27

<bows to the awesome Ben Cooper>

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 22/01/2024 18:30

LiesDoNotBecomeUs · 22/01/2024 18:17

I think we expressed some of the same feelings about certain witness statements but the judge has used words like surgical instruments here:

22 We had in mind that the majority of the witnesses we heard from were
academics. These were professionals who had been trained in the
methodology of research and presentation of fact and analysis producing
argument. We expected a certain basic level of rigour in presenting the
evidence before the Employment Tribunal. There were some witnesses who
we address below in our findings who did not meet this standard.

Ouch!

Great news. Hurrah for Jo!

PerkingFaintly · 22/01/2024 18:31

Oh, think I've misremembered and misgendered the judge. Sorry, "he she puts that nicely".

LiesDoNotBecomeUs · 22/01/2024 18:33

We found the Claimant to be an honest and impressive witness who was measured in her tone and responses.

A bit of a contrast to some other witnesses.

PerkingFaintly · 22/01/2024 18:33

Thanks for the link, @chilling19

PronounssheRa · 22/01/2024 18:44

I feel like I say this after every win, bit its is fucking awful that women have to spend ££££ to have their rights upheld and to challenge discrimination by huge organisations.

Yet, I will contribute again and again and again