The Gender War in Britain is Over

[EmpressoftheMundane]

So says Helen Lewis in The Atlantic Magazine.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/08/uk-trans-rights-labour-party/674944/

Made me realise how far we have come.

I wish. But hey. No retreat, baby, no surrender.

I really wish this headline was true.

I fear some leftie men have been enjoying the malicious misogyny/self righteous back patting combination a bit too much just to let it go. We’re going to have to be tenacious, it would be a mistake to think “job done” at this stage, in my view.

It's over when the toxic concept of 'legal' sex is binned. How such insanity arose will be a wonder to future generations.

The 'polarity' however is between:

excluding women to permit freedom of their spaces to male people including rapists, particularly excluding particular minority groups of women OR -actual impartial equality and inclusion for all

rejecting, excluding and subjecting homosexual people to conversion bullying to be 'inclusive' (with their body) of opposite sex people OR - actual impartial inclusion and tolerance of homosexuality.

Permitting exemption in safeguarding practice, including exemptions to the direct advantage of almost entirely benefit male people including many with evidence of concerning history OR - actual impartial safeguarding of children.

Fiction, feelings creating reality, gaslighting, the subjectivity of one or the few forcibly imposed on all OR - impartial objective reality and evidence for all.

Rights based on who you are, how old you are, how you vote and how you identify OR - impartial and equal rights that work for all irrespective of age, colour, creed, vote.

A fast one has been pulled on the general public that has included a lot of equality sounding waffle, a lot of LGB history and waffle, a lot of appropriating and using systems, and it has all relied on people being taken in by the marketing.

It will fall apart. It's taking an appalling amount of time and major questions will eventually need to be asked in depth on how this safeguarding disaster was able to happen, particularly to government and taxpayer funded establishment posts such as NHS, police, education, civil service, LAs. But all women need to do is stand and continue to be the voice of sense and of actual grown ups and wait. It's falling apart weekly, more and more people are seeing through the marketing, and the general public are getting sick of the ranting and scolding, awful behaviour, and obvious difficulties with reality and tolerance.

The headlines are usually not something the author of an article has any control over. They are hooks, to catch the interest of readers, so often more extreme than the piece itself.

But Labour has signaled the beginning of a serious democratic conversation, after years of implicitly agreeing with the LGBTQ activists who insisted that <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.li/o/Nsdbc/mermaidsuk.org.uk/news/trans-rights-are-not-up-for-debate/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">no debate was acceptable.

As a leader of a left-wing party, Starmer has sent an important sign by disassociating himself from the radical postmodern idea that the distinction between males and females is a <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.li/o/Nsdbc/www.newstatesman.com/ideas/2023/07/the-gender-binary-debate-jacqueline-rose" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">social construct, and that biology has nothing to do with women’s historical oppression.

Hmmmmm, yeah, I'll wait a while longer I think before actually believing Labour. I want to see hard proof and not soundbites personally.

Complacency got us here. The complacent still bleat about be kind and oh I don't mind.

Let's not make the same mistake again.

To war.

Metaphorically speaking, I must add. I've no intention of letting loose with my scalding cauldron.

The war is over….and the Occupation is just beginning.

Fingers crossed for the Resistance.

VE Day?

As I said before, huge because self-ID is the flagship demand, the hill transactivists are willing to die on and anything less than complete removal of all medical gatekeeping is treated as treason.

Self-ID is their line in the sand. I suspect any step back from it, however small, will be greeted with narcissistic rage-style reactions.

It’s not that Labour has taken a particularly big step, per se, but I suspect they’re about to experience the same backlash many moderate women received when they naively suggested third spaces or other reasonable compromises, to be greeted with hyperbolic accusations of bigotry and rape threats.

Labour party members were surrounded at Pride. They’ve supported transactivism to the hilt, but now they’re no longer welcome. It will be interesting to see where it goes from here.

But I disagree that it’s over. The realisation that banks are closing accounts because people have expressed “the wrong political views” is the latest sign of just how deep this goes.

Unfortunately, another agreement with this view. IMO, still very much a concern. Even more so as the recently converted youth graduate and move into positions of authority in organisations esp in HR, EDI etc. and think they know it all about being kind and inclusive (happily excluding women).

If you look at the TRA reactions online or in Pink News most of them are fuming.

They will be campaigning against Starmer and will over time help push him more in our direction. Not the battle is over the war is somewhere in the middle. Labour Women's Declaration now have a huge advantage as they can speak openly within Labour. Any debates they have a huge chance of winning.

It comes down to the legal situation

Fuming TRAs doesn’t mean we have single sex spaces back

It comes down to making sex mean biological sex in the EA

So does Starmer still believe that some women have penises?

Who knows? He's waiting to be told what to think.

I listened to the second half of “Anti-social” through gritted teeth (they were discussing “inclusive” policies like the Costa trans man). It seems “inclusivity” is baked in to corporate social responsibility so as to affect people’s bonuses for example. The part of the discussion I heard seemed to be all about cost of the policies versus the good they do and benefit to the company. I didn’t hear the first half but there was no recognition that “inclusivity” might be a subjective thing. It will be very difficult to root this out other than through top down political change and scandal I think. The war is not over…

I'm interested in this. My kids (early to mid teens) seem to be totally over gender ideology. They've seen trans and nb kids being endlessly pandered to at school, with multiple pronoun and name changes, plus the constant risk of using the wrong name etc. I get the impression that there is a weary tolerance of it all in school, and open piss taking /tutting/ eye rolling when at home or with particular friends.

All of that, more than anything the Labour Party could come up with, makes me think this madness will end before too long.

But I'm curious (and nervous!) to know what you see at your school that makes you think things will get worse.

Events dear boy, events. My own little theory is that there will be another (or a series of other) big shifts. No one was talking about rapists in prison, self ID was all about the feelings of the poor gender dysphoric people, and then suddenly Isla Bryson happened. And from then, the unsayable became sayable, there was a general WTF moment and politicians looked callous, cruel, incompetent, gullible you name it for pursuing this policy.

I think there will be more stories like Isla Bryson that will have a similar impact. The most significant will be a front page story where the sexual motivation for some will become blatantly obvious. And at that point a very big unsayable will become sayable, the reasonable policy position will become utterly unreasonable.

I grew up essentially taught feminism was done, that we had won. I genuinely think that is half the reason misogyny has managed such a come back. It's all tied up together with this ideology. My cohort were not looking and many still are not looking.

I will not be falling for this. Repeal the GRA. Let me see boys playing with 'girl' toys and that be ok. Let me go a few years not hearing about young girls trying to identify out of the uncomfortable male gaze. etc. and I will listen. Until then no it's not over.

And until stats stop including gender as sex I won't trust the 'proof' we have equality either. I'm still seething about the article I read recently that some highest paid 'woman' was once a man. That sort of shit has to stop

They've seen trans and nb kids being endlessly pandered to at school

I mean you said it, here.

I'm very, very glad that your kids are too sensible for this harmful nonsense but they have no power or influence. They won't have any power or influence over the world of education for a very long time, if ever (in all likelihood depending on their career path etc). I'm sorry if that sounds harsh. And they aren't in agreement with the majority of teens either, at least not as yet.

Meanwhile more and more teachers are turning towards this ideology and becoming convinced of it, the ones who simply weren't aware of it before, including experienced leadership staff. We are all getting "trained" on it. New teachers getting trained in teaching with this brand of EDI interwoven into all their practice. Diehard converts getting promoted into senior roles.

The problem is far bigger than the Labour party pretending they have rejected Self Id. As mentioned above this ideology has embeded itself in organisations and institutions, where it is now busily reproducing itself.

Maybe, but as the police and CPS are fully captured they may try to keep such events out of the public eye.

Note how the Galashiels butcher opted to be tried as a man. He should be sentenced around now. Am keeping an eye out for the news.

'Trans' simply wasn't a thing when i was teaching 13 years ago; but now my daughter is teaching and it is in every school. Some schools will be more formally aligned than others, but in every school there are activist teachers pushing this stuff - and creating an atmosphere in which critical or questioning pupils are fearful of being open or honest about it.

It has silently becoem a new orthodoxy; and institutional reflex - and even if you don't believe in it you are expected to go along with it.