People's History Museum & Sex Matters

[Littlesprouts]

Sorry I can't see if there's another thread on this.

Sex Matters had a board meeting in the People's History Museum this week. It has now released a statement grovelling to its trans and non binary community about how sorry they are for not doing their 'due diligence' and letting in people who 'don't share their values'. That would be women, then? Women aren't allowed in the People's History Museum to talk about women's issues? Because you're a 'welcoming and inclusive space'? Right-o.

Statements capitulating to the mob aren't anything new obviously, but this has to be one of the worst I've seen.

twitter.com/PHMMcr/status/1674375935741632516

Oh @SinnerBoy I fed you a line, although inadvertently. Seems they've changed it overnight. It looks like you have to have a twitter account.

I hope they change it back. I don't want a twitter account. Especially if you can lose your banking for tweeting a wrong think 🤔

You can have a Twitter account with no followers and not following anyone under any name and using a throwaway email address and never send a tweet or retweet. At least then when you click on a link in a thread it will take you straight to the tweet rather than the bloody login page!

The tweet has also been deleted.

Twitter hasn't blocked the Internet Archive from seeing its tweets, so you can go to https://web.archive.org/save and request an archive, then view that instead.

Though not this tweet as it's already been deleted and no-one archived it prior.

You can also replace https://twitter.com in a tweet or profile link with https://nitter.net and that will show you it through some sort of Twitter proxy that requests it for you without you needing an account or anything.

e.g.

https://nitter.net/jk_rowling
https://nitter.net/jk_rowling/status/1674805444857024513

Hope this helps!

There's an archived copy here: https://archive.ph/FWCJ2

She said she can see the issues from a woman's viewpoint. But "it is all about intersectionality..." and then got confused and because she is my friend I didn't press.

Can report having an identical conversation with a friend about 5 years ago.

@meowgender - I just get an error trying to use nitter from your links. It looks like there isn’t a work around for the change to viewing Twitter….

It is amazing that organisations and people in the public eye have been so slow to learn this. Apologies make things worse every time, as now everyone is angry with you. And the ensuing melée on social media just perpetuates and expands awareness of whatever issue you were apologising for in the first place.

When companies like Netflix have faced the TQ down, and refused to apologise, the fuss has died down very quickly. Only 0.2% of the UK population identifies as trans. Companies who allow themselves to be bullied by the 0.2% often end up upsetting the 99.8%, but many have been surprisingly slow to understand this.

I bet in 50 years time they'll have a section on the Women's Rights movement of the early 2000s with a huge copy of that picture of Maya and Helen and a proud write up of how they were one of the few venues to support women meeting!

I'm hoping that history will have a few new blue plaques.

Saw this mock up of a plaque yesterday!

That's excellent, Boiled!

There are some clever, snarky people on't interweb.

Perhaps us locals should go in and tell them we support women’s rights in this century as well as the last one. The need for suffragettes has not finished. The story continues.

I'm not quite local but I'd be up for that

Yes, I think you are right.

People will look back on this time period with amazement at what was allowed to happen.

I think what baffles my brain the most is that they (presumably? ) discovered that Maya was some sort of gender - critical woman, but didn't read enough to discover that she is well-known for winning discrimination cases against people penalising her for those beliefs.

At some point the penny may have dropped... or am I granting them too many join-the-dots skills?

Yes, past three dots, they're floundering.

Quite. I mean seriously of the top 10 people you don't willingly discriminate against or indicate you think is a bigot would be the woman in the No 1 spot who gave us the gift of WORIADS!

It doesn’t surprise me that they don’t recognise Maya’s name. When the BBC reported her winning damages, the headline read something like “Women wins court case for anti trans tweets “. It showed her face but you’d have to read a fairly grudging story to get the full report.

Absolutely, Plunk - I remember being shocked by how it was worded on the BBC's main page (when you clicked through to the actual report it was slightly better, but not by much). I wish I'd taken a screenshot and complained.