Three women injured by non-binary male in Canadian rugby game

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https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/warmington-female-rugby-players-complain-trans-opponent-hits-too-hard

'This transgender player, known as Ash — said to have registered as a non-binary person who identifies as female — stands about 5-foot-10 and weighs up to 220 pounds.

“We are women,” said a female player on the receiving end of a tackle. “It’s a whole other thing playing rugby against men.

“I had never been hit like that before, even at the competitive women’s level,” said the player. “There was so much more brute force. There are women who are bigger than him, but no girl hits like that. This is a strong human.”.

Yeah but men’s needs are more important than women’s needs

so if a man wants to be a woman, and it comes at the cost of biological women, the women just have to suck it up and know their place

'Rugby Canada said there were no illlegal hits, but sources in the game said Ash received a yellow card from the referee for a hit to the head of one female player.

Ash was pulled from the game. Players said they are not clear whether it was at the insistence of the referee or the Fergus coach.

Either way, Rugby Canada said this is a federal inclusion issue and not only is this transgender player welcomed in the league, but the law protects that person from discrimination.'

Yep

a [male] non-binary person who identifies as female

Eh? How can you identify as a non-binary person who identifies as binary?

All Canadian female players should refuse to play with or against him. He’d soon be shown the door.

This is actually one of the two strongest hypotheses which could explain why certain trans women (Veronica Ivy etc.) insist on participating in women's sports where they have a clear unfair advantage: that they enjoy humiliating and dominating women.

The other one is based on being so self-absorbed that nothing else matters but being applauded and validated (a Trump type personality, perhaps).

I know of trans women in sports who don't do this at all, because they don't belong in those two groups and consider others.

Either way, Rugby Canada said this is a federal inclusion issue and not only is this transgender player welcomed in the league, but the law protects that person from discrimination

Why can't Rugby Canada see the massive Health & Safety issue!? Not to mention how incredibly unfair and uncompetitive it is.

We don't allow children to play in adult sports. Let's not have men play in women's sports

Why do the non binary men always want in on the female side of the binary that they claim not to be part of?

Anyone would think they are claiming to be non binary for nefarious reasons. But that never happens does it!

Being nonbinary is seen by some as a skeleton key which opens any door anywhere.

A male identifying as nonbinary can run in women's marathon if they think it will be easiest to win the money prizes by doing that or they can run in the nonbinary category if they prefer that and if the odds of winning are higher there that day.

They can go in men's toilets if the queue to women's toilets is long, or they can use the women's if they feel like that. Indeed, they can do anything they want, it seems to me, in all those places where nonbinary is viewed as the third gender category.

And no medical or surgical alterations are required!

It's slightly less of an 'open sesame' for female nonbinaries as they will still be read as women and subject to the same risks as bog-standard women. But they can also demand the erasure of any mention of the reason for those risks: belonging to the female sex.

It’s refreshing to see the female athletes stand out against this. Our friends over in North America seem to be a lot further down the rabbit hole than we do here (is that a fair assessment)? They also don’t seem to see any difference between sex and gender.

Three American women who competed against Lia Thomas have spoken up, despite threats to their scholarships and future job opportunities.

Men ruined this and women are expected to risk everything to fix it. Frankly, I wish the men in charge would fucking tell off these transwomen. I'm sick and tired of it being our loss, our responsibility. (I know it's not practical and yes women can help by speaking up, but it's so unfair)

Three American women who competed against Lia Thomas have spoken up, despite threats to their scholarships and future job opportunities.

Thats good to hear. When Lia first start swimming for the women’s team all I really saw was the women on the team #beingkind. Or is it a case that women on Lia’s team are being supportive and Lia’s opponents aren’t…

This is appalling.
Any reading of comments online relating to the issue of men in women's sport and what's happening to children demonstrates that the public at large are outraged. People who've ignored / dismissed much of this to date can't believe that men like this are able to place sportswomen in such danger. And as for transitioning children........ I think this is society's turning point and the inability of so many activists to consider the safety and welfare of women and especially children is resulting in that backlash emerging that women on here have been warning about for ages.

I do so love the comments - you could play bingo with them too!

"Women! Refuse to play!"
(Be blacklisted from the sport you love, lose job opportunities, sponsorships, scholarships, possibly be in trouble for discrimination)

"Women athletes! Protest this!"
(Be blacklisted from the sport you love, lose job opportunities, sponsorships, scholarships, possibly be in trouble for discrimination)

"Coaches! Forfeit the game!"
(Like the school who now cannot play in any league for any sport at any level because they discriminated.)

"Women! Why aren't you protesting thus?"
(Ever heard of J.K.Rowling? And how one of the world's most beloved writers and a very rich woman got cancelled?)

"This is what feminists wanted!"
(Just good old-fashioned woman-hating and misogyny)

You get bonus points for anyone saying "Stop the world, I want to get off"!

Can't see any other way out as they have passed such bonkers laws in Canada. Rugby is definitely not worth the risk of injury from a cheat.

He's just an abusive man that has found a way to hurt women without getting arrested. And Canadian Rugby is enabling the abuse of women by allowing this.

I don't know what the solution is, or how to stop it, but I think it will take global collective action to make any difference at all.

I suspect that the only way the men who in reality run sport will take any notice is if they somehow are made to lose money by allowing men to play in women's sports.

I thought World Rugby had a ban with excellent evidence as to why? Which means that clubs who do not follow the lead, should expect to lose any legal action.

World Rugby, like any international sporting body, has no direct authority to tell national bodies how to run domestic games.

National bodies can make their own rules. There's no international sporting law, afaik. No Geneva sports convention... Sport is not actually a human right.

But certainly if anyone were to bring a case in Canada, if might happen that being able to point to the example of World Rugby could help a sex discrimination case - they have all the formal evidence about why men against women is specifically unfair in Rugby.

Plus there's maybe the point that women are suffering an undue barrier to international competition. They're being denied a domestic proving ground for the female international classification in the way that men are not.

In cricket, the umpire ( equivalent to referee) can stop a game in safety grounds. There is a movement to support umpires in this action if some players ( ahem) seem to be bowling too aggressively.

I don't understand why cis-gendered men aren't objecting. These organisations are run by men - straight, cis-gendered men over the age of 40. Historically, they have accommodated women reluctantly in the first place.

But I have yet to meet a straight, cis-gendered man over 30 who empathises with a man dressing as a woman and clobbering women in women's sport.

In general, most men don't have any particular feelings about female-passing transwomen - Kim Petras, for instance, but when it comes to a balding bloke on a rugby pitch trying to hit women they rapidly lose sympathy.

So why are the ones with the power to put a stop to this ALLOWING the balding bloke on the rugby pitch to hit women? This is not a women's problem, this is a men's problem and they should be dealing with it.

Because the men that run it weigh up the costs of litigation against the federal government over discrimination laws vs a few women getting the shit knocked out of them and at the moment they come down on the side of avoiding spending money. Only a serious injury and/or lack of insurance coverage - money, basically - will make them care.

Riley Gaines was on Thomas' team and has spoken out about what actually happened. You can search her and find lots. She also did an interview with (I think) Matt Walsh that was very interesting. While I can't stand that guy, he didn't interrupt her and just let her speak, which she was more than happy to do.

Now there's a second former teammate who has spoken out. I forget her name but she was anonymous initially and more recently has done it under her own name.

Short story is that complaints lead to reeducation.

Riley Gaines also has spoken about the contents of Thomas' social media posts - which are deeply disturbing. One one video interview (I think with Matt Walsh and his team of merry men), they showed clips.

Gaines has received very serious threats for speaking out.

I wonder how they got insurance for this game. It’s really hard (and expensive) to get insurance for mixed sex rugby.