Police withdraw stalking protection order application against Caroline Farrow

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Or rather their barrister does. The case somehow got as far as court without the police giving Caroline's representations to the barrister. Once he read them he declined to proceeed.

https://twitter.com/CF_Farrow/status/1671854328485691392?

https://twitter.com/CF_Farrow/status/1672117973862039552?

As I see it, Caroline wins either way since the spotlight is now shone very brightly on abusive men of all stripes, both in and out of the police. She won't - and this is one thing I'm confident of - be going to prison because people can't stop themselves from stalking her social media and then whinging to everyone.

Yes not a very common occurrence to have 7 weeks on holiday, but it can happen if its planned and approved. This will cover things like a wedding and honeymoon in Australia for example

SEVEN WEEKS for a honeymoon? oh the poor underpaid overworked police, how my heart bleeds for them.

Most I've ever been able to wangle for a holiday to Oz is 3 weeks.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain

Like I say, its not a common occurrence - but I have known it happen. The officer had to use all the annual leave for that year and any carry over to cover it. It also incorporated seeing some of their family who live over there.

Had to be authorised years in advance too.

Most of us are like yourself and struggle to get ant time off - especially over the summer or Christmas.

The seven weeks may also incorporate a course. So they are on holiday for two weeks followed by a 4 week course. So, they are away from shift for seven weeks.

Today on Mumsnet:

Annual leave patterns of the modern British constabulary.

Tomorrow:

Observations of evaporative loss of water content of the Dulux range of ceiling white 😴😴😴

Let's face it, the case is now unlikely to go anywhere now the SPO has been dropped. I know precisely what Caroline's submissions were, why it was binned, and what the state of play now is. Given the order couldn't pass a basic hurdle, it'd be unusual if there was now a criminal case to pursue. The only frustrating part is having to counter police insanity and other lies. Still, Surrey are being sued over this, and already have a large costs bill, which begs the question if they want to continue blundering ahead.

NotBadConsidering

Another poster raised the subject that the OIC was away for 7 weeks - possibly annual leave.

It was in answer to that subject.

DrLouiseJMoody

The SPO is separate matter from the investigation.

As we still don't know what the investigation is about - we can't make any assumptions as to where the investigation is heading. The SPO is a safeguarding matter to protect the complainant whilst the primary investigation is ongoing.

Its similar to a DVPN/DVPO. We have had loads of DVPN's not granted - but the suspect is eventually charged with the primary offence.

Not very pleasant for this forum.
Is that aimed at me or everyone?

LOLZ.

The only person that needs protecting is Caroline.

And stop addressing me, please. I know the details. You're a pedantic, illiterate, irrelevance who does not.

I'll leave other forum users to decide which one of us has credibility concerning the investigation.

I have come to my own conclusions @DrLouiseJMoody , you wouldn't need to be a DCI to guess what they are, and I'm always interested to read your contributions

Perhaps they need the 7 week holibob. You know, maybe he can't afford it on his wages so having to use a freight ship instead of an aeroplane. He might end up just 2 days actually there. Must be exhausting poor thing.

DrLouiseJMoody

We are back to the fact that we don't know what the original reporting person has stated, what the specific offence is or what the evidence is for and against. So at this stage we can't really judge.

Disclaimer - I am using 'we' to mean me and most others on here. I acknowledge that some on here will know or have been told the details of the complaint and I am aware that Caroline may have access to this thread or indeed people close to her. I also acknowledge that the reporting person, OIC and direct witnesses may also read the thread and hence will not be included in the term 'we'.

Yes, @BezMills, I think if you manage to appear to counter posts from people who actually have knowledge of the investigation within minutes of their posts, then you probably aren't a legit officer. That or you're possibly on your usual two months leave.

Tsk.... @DrLouiseJMoody - he'll be entertaining himself as he's waiting for the diagnostics to come through on whatever car he's doing up at the moment - thats his usual MO anyhoo!

This is something I would really like investigated. How much the 'Stonewalling' of public services has actually cost the public purse. Because it's not just the direct cost of their ridiculous rainbow index, it's the cost of inclusivity materials... policies and procedures... spurious police and legal action... paying for the fallout from this nationwide cult.

I used to think a decent percentage of the British population were educated. I now feel otherwise.

Tell me more about this paint....

I used to think a decent percentage of the British population were educated. I now feel otherwise

I have a mate who reckons that intelligence is actually decreasing in the population as a whole, and I really think she might be on to something. Certainly it's obvious that critical thinking no longer appears to be taught as a skill.

As we all know who the complainant is, they publicly identified themselves on Twitter and this is now recorded in a court case https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/KB/2023/950.html - as far as I know the outstanding costs have still not been paid, we all know that the police will be coming under a lot of pressure from this person to prosecute.

They will send it to the CPS to make themselves sue-proof.

This will benefit from having an experienced, qualified, regulated and insured legal professional, likely a senior barrister given the profile of the case, review the file and evidence.

In order to bring a prosecution the CPS must be satisfied of two things.

a) it's in the public interest
b) there is a reasonable prospect of conviction

The CPS will also know that given the nature of the litigant, if they decide not to prosecute, the complainant will exercise every avenue for appeal until it's exhausted because that's what they do.

The complainant is desperate for a victory as the police have recently declined to take action against the 4th woman they've had interviewed under caution. https://twitter.com/missdemenor/status/1674097028698087424?s=20

A police complaint against me was also binned.

A look at Laurence Fox's feed is interesting. Laurence "misgenders" the complainant but, to date, hasn't been sued or reported to the police. I wonder why, on the face of it, it's vulnerable women who are subject to what I consider harassment via the judicial and criminal systems.

*Avoided "misgendering" to comply with Talk Guidelines but everyone knows what I think.

Well I'll just sit on my hands on that one, because my eyes went so crossed reading all that legalese that I'm not even sure if they're still in the correct sockets. Interesting though. Very interesting. It's great that this thread stays busy, because we don't want to lose sight of this important case. All post are therefore very useful and good work everyone who has been bumping the thread.

Oh. The taxpayer funds that Surrey have misused on the failed stalking order are a little over £7000, and have now increased because it's been listed for a costs hearing after Surrey ignored all costs correspondence.

Basically Caroline and her counsel had to prepare a defence for an order which if Wiggum had read the already submitted evidence, would never have been brought. No wonder the officer has escaped on a seven week holiday.

But Felix, we just don't know about the annual leave. You shouldn't speculate because you just don't know.

Wow, thanks @baggmo I didn’t know that history.

And gosh, 7 weeks’ annual leave? I’m an academic, and according to most people, we’re always on hols. But not for 7 weeks straight! Clearly I’m in the wrong job.

Not going to have any days left for Christmas.