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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
raspberrywine · 14/06/2023 06:33

Yes, typical behaviour we have come to expect but how embarrassing for the Biden administration. Poetic justice and all that.

MrsJamin · 14/06/2023 06:58

I meant Biden has no clue about what trans activists really want and the fact they will keep on asking to "be their true selves" without any kind of normal social boundaries.

Musomama1 · 14/06/2023 07:46

The White House condemns this, however, Channel 4 celebrates Jordan Whatshisname getting his fake tits and real penis out, indulging in flashing.

Pretty much the same thing. Thank god at least some authority is telling us this isn't as wonderful as the exposers think it is.

ArabeIIaScott · 14/06/2023 08:23

ScrollingLeaves · 14/06/2023 00:24

The President of the United States of America actually said,
“You are the bravest and most inspiring people I’ve ever known.”

Is it brave to expose yourself in public? One word for it. Biden has beclowned himself throughly.

Florissante · 14/06/2023 08:29

It would have been nice to have an adult there to keep the children in line.

WandaWomblesaurus · 14/06/2023 08:37

ScrollingLeaves · 14/06/2023 00:24

The President of the United States of America actually said,
“You are the bravest and most inspiring people I’ve ever known.”

He's been losing the plot for a while.
And maybe the soldiers he and his ilk send out as canon fodder might be a bit braver than some bloke in a dress fondling his silicone breasts but hey ho Biden.

MagpiePi · 14/06/2023 08:38

This is beyond embarrassing for everyone involved.

IWillNoLie · 14/06/2023 08:38

ScrollingLeaves · 14/06/2023 00:24

The President of the United States of America actually said,
“You are the bravest and most inspiring people I’ve ever known.”

Imagine saying that in front of the White House marines on guard duty ready to put their lives on the line at any moment…

IWillNoLie · 14/06/2023 08:41

Just thinking of soldiers too - from what I hear veterans hospitals are a nightmare, why isn’t more concern being paid to their healthcare? Healthcare often needed as a direct result of protecting their country?

ArabeIIaScott · 14/06/2023 09:14

IWillNoLie · 14/06/2023 08:38

Imagine saying that in front of the White House marines on guard duty ready to put their lives on the line at any moment…

That hadn't occurred to me.

What a ridiculous, outrageous indictment of the man.

This is how Trump gets back in, I suppose.

ArabeIIaScott · 14/06/2023 09:17

BBC

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65898998

'"My trans masculine friends were showing off their top surgery scars and living in joy, and I wanted to join them," she said. "And because it is perfectly within the law of Washington DC, I decided to join them and cover my nipples just to play it safe."
In the video, captioned "free the nipple", she added: "I was simply living my joy and my truth and existing in my body."'

Rose Montoya at White House

White House bans three guests after topless video at Pride party

TikTok star Rose Montoya says being topless in Washington is legal and she had no desire to be vulgar.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65898998

Datun · 14/06/2023 09:19

ArabeIIaScott · 14/06/2023 09:17

BBC

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65898998

'"My trans masculine friends were showing off their top surgery scars and living in joy, and I wanted to join them," she said. "And because it is perfectly within the law of Washington DC, I decided to join them and cover my nipples just to play it safe."
In the video, captioned "free the nipple", she added: "I was simply living my joy and my truth and existing in my body."'

Appropriating victim language, appropriating feminism, all so he can get his fake tits out because it gives him a kick.

Xoxoxoxoxoxox · 14/06/2023 09:37

As Montaya was born male and grown up showing their chest during swimming and sunny weather it must be a bit strange to suddenly have to cover up breasts as women do because breasts are over sexualised in our culture. A freedom granted to men that they may not have thought too much about before.

The transmen received far less attention even though they showed their chests even though they are women as it has become one of the tropes of transactivism for transmen to show off their new 'freedom' to undress the top half in public.

“My trans masculine friends were showing off their top surgery scars and living in joy, and I wanted to join them. - well you can't. You are being judged as a woman would be.

turbonerd · 14/06/2023 09:45

Why do you have to show your surgery to live in joy and exist in your existence?

Should I pull off my undergarments and show off my ceasaerean (spelling 😂) scar everytime I feel a smidgen of joy?
It is the best scar I have.

It annoys me that whipping your top off for joy is stunning and brave, but trying to breastfeed a baby in public is regarded as disgusting (not always, but often enough).

ArabeIIaScott · 14/06/2023 09:49

There is a a whole series of videos of 'Trans 101' on Montaya's instagram. Interspersed with soft porn shots in tacky underwear.

Rose seems to model their idea of 'woman' on the picture on a 1986 KP salted nuts calendar, only with filters instead of soft focus.

I think Rose is an excellent and instructive source of information on the 'gender' movement and many people may learn a lot from looking at Rose's socials.

Sad to see so many in the LGBTQIA++ family seem to be unable to celebrate Rose's bodily joy and euphoria along with Rose when Rose is only living Rose's joy and truth.

https://www.instagram.com/therosemontoya/

Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/therosemontoya?hl=en-gb

ArabeIIaScott · 14/06/2023 09:51

Was it salted nuts or pork scratchings? I forget. You know the ones; the more packets of snacks you bought, the more bags you tore off, gradually to reveal the saucy lady in tacky underwear underneath.

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Misstache · 14/06/2023 11:44

Twitter is wild on this. People really have lost touch with reality. Tons of people actually gloating because “it shows they actually think TW are women.” Some sensible people saying “uh, this was a bad look and harms Trans people” being shot down and accused of “respectability politics” and “throwing TW under the bus.”

Why does the WH keep inviting “TikTok influencers” like Dylan Mulvaney and this person anyway? Is that all this movement has to offer? I would be mad as a black woman if the WH held an event for BW and then invited a bunch of Instagram models instead of scientists, authors, actors, heads of organizations, etc. Who is vetting these people and why aren’t they screening these people out?

In any movement you can’t stop people on social media from acting out of pocket. In Civil Rights I’m sure there were some unhinged people too but they carefully controlled who actually got to speak in public, how people dressed and presented themselves to strategically present the movement. They didn’t let any old crazy person come and rant wildly for a reason. You can’t control randoms on SM these days so anyone can be said to “represent the movement” but you can certainly control who you invite to stand next to the president. It’s insane that these people are even being allowed - it shows a fundamental lack of judgement if this is who is actually being chosen as faces of the movement.

If there truly were a Trans genocide then you’d think there’d be effort put into strategizing the movement. This is exactly Dave Chappelle’ point. Black people have to watch how we talk, walk, dress, so that we aren’t seen as criminal or threatening. We spend our lives under the white gaze adjusting how we behave so that we aren’t accused and singled out. Black people would never go to the WH and strip naked because we know it would reflect on all of us and we’ve lived our lives having it hammered into our heads that the actions of one reflect (unfairly) on all of us because of racism. In Civil rights black people wore church clothes and took beatings just so we could appear as human to people. If Trans people were truly the most oppressed people on earth they would act like people who live under oppression act, not think they can do anything they want without any consequence.

IWillNoLie · 14/06/2023 12:29

This is how Trump gets back in, I suppose.

Please, please, please Republicans choose someone else as your candidate!

Flickersy · 14/06/2023 12:36

Datun · 14/06/2023 00:22

Exhibitionism! That's the word! 😄

And it's so aggressive. Women just don't do that.

Still, it's not unknown for men to be delighted with waggling their private parts, is it!

Has everyone forgotten the female merkin flasher in the Scottish parliament already?

happydappy2 · 14/06/2023 12:48

if a male exposing his silicone implants is not appropriate for the White House lawn, why is it appropriate in a changing room where girls and women are undressing? It makes no sense...

DerekFaker · 14/06/2023 12:55

Xoxoxoxoxoxox · 14/06/2023 09:37

As Montaya was born male and grown up showing their chest during swimming and sunny weather it must be a bit strange to suddenly have to cover up breasts as women do because breasts are over sexualised in our culture. A freedom granted to men that they may not have thought too much about before.

The transmen received far less attention even though they showed their chests even though they are women as it has become one of the tropes of transactivism for transmen to show off their new 'freedom' to undress the top half in public.

“My trans masculine friends were showing off their top surgery scars and living in joy, and I wanted to join them. - well you can't. You are being judged as a woman would be.

Oh come on, he clearly enjoys havjng breasts and showing them off and fondling them.

Florissante · 14/06/2023 12:56

And he also likes to perform lap dances.

MrsJamin · 14/06/2023 13:23

Wow rose is getting so much shit from other trans people on Rose's Instagram!

ArabeIIaScott · 14/06/2023 13:38

Why does the WH keep inviting “TikTok influencers” like Dylan Mulvaney and this person anyway? Is that all this movement has to offer?

Those who want the limelight so often turn out to be exhibitionists.