Fears Rishi Sunak will renege on promise to clarify definition of biological sex

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Rishi Sunak is facing calls to make a public “cast iron guarantee” to follow through on a pledge to rewrite equality law to protect women, amid Tory MPs’ fears that he will renege on his promise.

Conservative backbenchers are planning to challenge Maria Caulfield, the minister for women, to give an undertaking in the Commons that Mr Sunak will deliver on his promised legal changes to ensure that “mothers and women are not erased from public life”.

Sources close to the Prime Minister insist he remains committed to the pledge, with one saying that the Government is carefully considering advice from the Equality and Human Rights Commission on the matter and another saying, “It’s certainly not being delayed or dropped”.

But senior Tories fear that the party will lose its opportunity to change the law if Mr Sunak fails to act swiftly ahead of an election next year.

One backbencher said: “There is a debate within government about whether this is a hill to die on and it’s unclear how much of a row the Government wants, doing this in the run-up to an election. But if they can’t say what a woman is by the time we go into an election we’re in trouble.”

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A Telegraph article reprinted by Yahoo Fears Rishi Sunak will renege on promise to clarify definition of biological sex (yahoo.com)

I wonder at the motive of the DT for pursuing this (not complaining just wondering)

Also confused:
Maria Caulfied is not the Minister for Women see https://www.gov.uk/government/people/maria-caulfield
Kemi Badenoch is the Minister for Women https://www.gov.uk/government/ministers/minister-for-women-and-equalities--3

Wonder why the article refers to MC as being the one who should ask Sunak in the House of Commons to clarify. Is there some signifigance in this that I dont understand?

..and my post was in response to someone else's musings.

If the Tories don't give a fuck about women - given that it is mainly Tory MPs speaking the most sense on the issue, then Labour certainly don't. It is all window dressing - talking about VAWG whilst simultaneously pushing for male access to female spaces.

I'm an ex Labour party member, and I think you are in for a big disappointment if you think that Labour is going to be that much better. Admittedly, we'll be free of Boris, for a while, and seeing the likes of Rees Mogg lolling around in his entitled way on the benches, but when I look at any number of Labour MPs - including my own - I feel as much dejection.

As I keep saying, look at Wales to see an example of what Labour does when it's in charge of policy, organisation and funding (and has been for 22 years).

There are some things people will agree with, such as free prescriptions. But in most fields the NHS is in as bad a state as in England or worse. And transgenderism is pushed everywhere, including in schools, the health service and rape services (where those which don't include transwomen are refused funding).

Yes as you say "Speak" i don't want anymore talk, i want laws changed to protect females and the Tories record is dismal.

From my own experience, in England, not Wales, female patient in a MH setting, sexually abused by a male patient, funding for MH services still being cut in real terms.

A Trans women can be raped & i would want them to receive help too, its not really helpful to exclude TW from rape services and the health system, do you think Gay men should also not receive help if subjected to rape?

Whose fault is it if the funding has not been provided to treat TW separately and thats across the UK.

One way of looking at it, is that it's easier and indeed cheaper to make grand social gestures, than it is to spend the money and drive policy, to create meaningful outcomes and results.

It's easy for Starmer to say he's going to "halve VAWG in first term of a Labour government", yet what will he actually do? He'll legislate for further freedoms for males to access female spaces.

Easier, more eye catching, more social justice award-winning.

What it won't be, is progessive towards less VAWG.

Cameron? Content to create some of the greatest levels of family breakdown and consequently VAWG, and poverty-inspired misery. But he can virtue signal by saying his Equal Marriage legislation made him a social champion.

You can ignore everything the parties say or don't say about making things genuinely better for women.

It's what they're not saying about gender policy that to me speaks the loudest.

No one will make you vote any particular way, you do you.

But to be clear none of the political parties will keep promises they make. History shows this over and over.

Torys are currently the best bet, that may change. It may even change for the better (I very much doubt that but still)
If you think any party cares about women, you are mistaken.

The only power we have as a class are our votes. At this moment in time I'll vote Tory
If a different party wants my vote then they just have to have policies around this matter to appeal to me.

However all that said, with kier in charge of labour and the fact he is a complete wuss means even if he said the right things, I would not vote for him. When he (ironically) grows a pair of balls I might change my mind.

I know for certain he knows what a woman is, he's just too cowardly to say it. No one needs a coward running this country.

There should be dedicated rape centres - and shelters for domestic violence victims - especially for transwomen. I'm talking about services for women - actual biological women - where they are not forced into contact with biological men. Can you really not see how women might need those? And that they should be funded?

As for rapes in hospitals, yes, the figures are horrendous. In Wales, where Labour are in charge, there have been at least 178 rapes or sexual assaults in hospitals on the last 3 years. 44% of them were on wards - the figure in England is 13%. (https://nation.cymru/news/freedom-of-information-request-reveals-178-rapes-and-sexual-assaults-in-welsh-hospitals/)

'will Labour be any better'

No party can lie this hard, and this badly, and have my trust.

Labour have proven themselves to be extremist in position, yet weak in action. Virtually incapable of speaking straightforwardly.

The over riding outcome of this whole farrago has certainly left the Conservatives looking like the reasonable, sensible and sane option, whatever their policies are.

I think you’ve hit the nail on the head there.

You seem very confused. It's not that the funding hasn't been provided for tw victims, it's that it's only provided for them. Any rape crisis centre that has applied in the last 5 years for funding for only bio women has had that finding refused abd to access any gov or charity like lotto funding said they will treat tw as women. If they say they treat separately funding I dropped. Because the entire point I they want to be validated as women even when victims themselves help isn't enough, it has to be in a group of bio women.
And gov charity etc has all agreed this funding basis and refusal of funding. It's entirely known and deliberate. So it's women who can't get funding for rape help and dv not tw!

Also do you think gay men go to women's rape centres? There are male support systems tw just refuse to use them as it doesn't validate them.

A Trans women can be raped & i would want them to receive help too, its not really helpful to exclude TW from rape services

Yes men can be raped too. Men who identify as trans, gay men and straight men can all be victims of rape and there needs to be rape services available to them. Women need separate services from men though.

So it's women who can't get funding for rape help and dv not tw!

Exactly.
That is why JKR opened Breira’s Place for women.

A Trans women can be raped & i would want them to receive help too, its not really helpful to exclude TW from rape services and the health system, do you think Gay men should also not receive help if subjected to rape?

Shouldn’t that be within the remit of LGBT services, rather than women’s services?

Don't know, where would a lesbian be treated/helped? LGBT services or a rape centre...? Hopefully the place where best support can be found.

Either way, these services are increasingly reliant on charity as more real terms cuts bite, thankyou Mr Sunak.

https://rapecrisis.org.uk/news/we-join-80-womens-orgs-in-calling-for-urgent-action-on-the-cost-of-living-crisis/

where would a lesbian be treated/helped? LGBT services or a rape centre...?

Obviously at women’s services since she would be a woman raped by a man.