What is a woman: Daily Wire documentary on for limited time for free

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That could be the explanation

it must be seriously uncomfortable constantly having to defend something you don’t even understand

are you in a hostage situation @TraumatisedGooner ? Blink twice for yes

Oh dear.

The documentary explored people’s answers to that one question along with other questions.

I believe if those activists were edited, they would have declared they were edited and clipped to misrepresent them. We have already seen this tactic in action. Walsh had been doing this type of thing for a while so knows that he should not open himself up to that accusation.

He was going to accused either way. And you really cannot have it both ways. He has to cut content down somehow, he decreed who he could cut without complaint.

Really how bizarre. He didn’t explore the question? What a ridiculous take.

And again, what puritanical world do you inhabit that a documentary/ video maker goes into the project not having an idea on what they will encounter. Obviously one with either a huge budget or endless resources such as time and effort. You really must live in a pure and ideal world to have posted otherwise.

If Matt Walsh had seriously misrepresented anyone, then they could just say so.

If he had somehow used editing tricks to falsely misrepresent them (1) as claiming that trans-women are women, (2) not being able to coherently explain what a woman is, then they could all come out and make a fuss that would get picked up by parts of the media. They could all be saying, "actually this is my definition of woman and doesn't it make wonderful sense".

If you want to argue that, sure, they couldn't explain what a woman is, but Matt Walsh didn't treat them the same way, and used editing to make them look an extra 20% stupid, then it's a relatively minor criticism. It may show a lack of integrity on the part of Matt Walsh as a documentary maker, but his basic point would still be correct.

I point again to the Dr. Phil episode. Matt Walsh didn't control the editing for that. But in a similar way, he made his opponents look stupid. You don't need editing to make the trans activist side look stupid!

And it's difficult to take seriously the, "you have a closed mind" stuff, given that the trans-activist side will openly say, "no debate" and try to shut down talks on the subject. They openly admit to having a closed mind! Are any GC feminists or conservatives trying to shut down debate on this subject? I don't mean indoctrinating children, I mean debate in the adult world.

I really don’t think that Walsh’s ‘editing’ made people’s answers any less ridiculous or dangerous. If adults watching this can’t filter out the pauses and the natural umms and ahhs, they are fools.

This is really poor posturing and is too far a reach to be credible.

I don't quite understand how an unedited one hour reel of someone being unable to answer "what is a woman?" could make them look any better than showing only an edit.

It's a mercy, really.

When people don't get edited - letting everyone watch them fail to answer continuously for 17 pages - it just gets embarrassing.

I think what was wanted was a definition that makes good sense, and maybe one that makes more sense than using the traditional definition.

Anyway, it's not like, well this is super complicated because of new scientific discoveries and this takes time to understand.

No, it's purely a change that some people want because of political ideology.

So they can throw out something relatively simple, "a woman is anyone that identifies as a woman", it's just that the definition lacks intelligible content. It's not some "advanced" understanding of gender, as some people may delude themselves!

“I point again to the Dr. Phil episode. Matt Walsh didn't control the editing for that. But in a similar way, he made his opponents look stupid. You don't need editing to make the trans activist side look stupid!”

This is very true. And is so often ignored.

Not just Dr Phil. There is a video of an event where an EMT declared they were an adult human female when they were male and acknowledged they were born a male. An EMT! Who also declared they could be ‘intersex’ because they used that Fausto- Sterling lie of the % of intersex people which included females wrongfully to bolster the numbers. An EMT!

Why should any editing be done to moderate how fucking dangerous an EMT is to believe they are treating the opposite sex because they have a trans patient! Because that male stated on public record that a male can be an adult human female.

It defies reality. It is fucking ridiculous to blame ‘editing’ for the poor performance of people who either cannot answer truthfully ( in which case the pauses and the umms are relevant!) or who give answers that do not reflect reality as per proven science.

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If they were edited? Grzanka's answers feature several slow fades that (1) make it seem like his answer was endless and (2) prevent you from actually hearing it as one coherent piece. Have you ever seen a documentary do that to an interviewee before? I haven't.

The people making this documentary simply did not operate in good faith at any point of the process. In fact, in an attempt to reel in interviewees representing the pro-trans perspective they:

1. Set up a fake organisation
2. Used fake names
3. Lied about the focus of the film

I wonder if those representing a gender critical perspective were lied to? Probably not. I await a half dozen explanations for why this is actually totally justifiable practice. The ends justify the means, right? It's okay for Walsh to manipulate his interviewees. It's okay for him to misrepresent them. Just as it's okay for you all to elevate a far right, white nationalist, strident anti-feminist. Women's rights are at stake, after all.

Have you posted evidence of these three points that I missed ?

It's common knowledge, e.g. https://www.insider.com/matt-walsh-accused-luring-trans-people-into-anti-trans-doc-2022-2

but about the hostage situation @TraumatisedGooner ?

are you being forced to do this against your will? use the agreed code and we'll arrange for the SAS to bust you out

Sorry, am I missing something.

An assistant who has a moniker (I know a few people who work under a combination of their names that isn’t their birth name. Gosh…. Some trans people do too!).

And a project name.

No, really? Is this your supposed proof?

I think Gooner's trying to tell us that trans activists actually said that tsex is binary, only men have a penis and that medical experimentation on children leading to infertility and life long drugs and surgery is wrong?

And that bigot Matt Walsh edited it all to make them say the opposite?

Seems like they may have hidden that they were coming from a conservative perspective.

Given the seriousness of the issues, I understand why journalists would behave this way.

I doubt you would have a problem with journalists not being 100% open, if they were exposing conservatives doing something.

Yes, you are missing something, but I'm pretty sure it's wilful.

They set up a fake organisation called the 'Gender Unity Project' and told potential interviewees that they were making a film exploring the real lives of people in the LGBT+ communites. Once allegations came to light the fake webpage and social media accounts all disappeared. The associate producer in question seems to use the name Makenna Waters pretty much everywhere, but not on the email where she was lying through her teeth.

You can't really think this is okay. Please just for one minute consider how you would be reacting right now if an anti-GC documentary went about finding interviewees like this.

I note that the film is still freely available which is great - so let's keep this thread bumped for anyone who has failed to watch such an interesting piece.

"You can't really think this is okay. Please just for one minute consider how you would be reacting right now if an anti-GC documentary went about finding interviewees like this."

Er, it would be a relatively minor sin, compared to the "no debate" stuff, trying to shut down discussion, making threats, attacking people, demonisation of opponents.

Oh no, they set up a false front to carry out some interviews... Your side would still get destroyed in debate in that situation.

Yeah. Film projects have working titles. Not sure how you don’t know that.

And people use a professional name sometimes. Would you say the same thing about a trans person as you are implying here?

Where is this other evidence other than that one article?

And how would I react? Seriously?

I would fucking honestly answer the questions asked and if I was misrepresented, I would complain very loudly on social media with very valid complaints. I have done some interviewing before for my own business, unless you have been misrepresented, and your honest answers are shown, you are always in the producers hands. That is how it works.

Again, if you have no other ‘evidence’ then your argument is non existent. Please post the evidence.

That is great news. Thanks Mrs O!

is this code?

does not OK refer to your situation?

do we need to stand up the SAS?

please advise

I'd prefer that @TraumatisedGooner simply explained what the gender identity shared by cis women and transwomen is like. I actually feel a little embarrassed for him that he's here shilling for something he can't even explain

but as he can't even face that I'm happy to keep asking the question

bumps the thread, innit?

I think the fact that people feel they cannot stand by their beliefs when produced on a video says a great deal about them.

If I were one of the prominent feminists, to fucking right I would be getting interviewed for a documentary, even if it was done by someone who attempting to show the opposite belief. Because that is how you convince people who either haven’t made up their minds to explore further or you come across with valid points and people start actually fucking thinking !

Fuck! That people with adverse opinions are ‘unsafe’ to be interviewed means they should say no to every fucking interview they are asked for. If you cannot defend your beliefs, you should not be doing any speaking at all.

It is not that fucking hard.

😂😂

The film's now had 2.2 million views!

It's actually a credit to the power of this little old board that Gooner's spending so much time on the 6 of us old terfs (plus the dog). Cos there's another 1,999,994 viewers to lecture about the crimes of MW 😀