A bit shaken- friends into gender ideology

[mybodyisme]

So, long time lurker, used to participate a bit but nowhere near as informed as others so ended up mainly lurking.

Anyway, learned a lot. I am neurodiverse so have done a lot of hyperfocus study of the subject so know a lot more than the man on the street.

Anyway, feel need a bit of support and unpicking because each time I try to bring up how this ideology isn't something I am comfortable supporting, I've had some odd reactions.

Two friends I know separately, both who have slightly different values when it comes to gender and feminism. (One very traditional won't dress a girl in blue incase, shudder, misgendered; one clothes should be clothes advocate) have both left me feeling a bit shaken when discussing this.

Both have implied that if their child was born in the wrong body (their words) then they would support a transition. When I've tried to bring up how I don't agree with this approach because it encourages gender stereotypes, creates lifelong medical patients, serious medical consequences, I've not even been given a chance to explain properly before I get given the 'bigot, transphobia' treatment.

I find it incredibly frustrating because although I know more about it than a lot of people, I find it difficult to articulate verbally. Because I am neurodiverse I find it even more to put across my point when someone gets accusatory as my fight or flight response is activated.

I was also sort of hoping with all the sunlight at the moment that this response would happen less and less as people started to question it. I mean, it's not like I bring it up all the time, but I refuse to be complicit with the fiction so when it comes up I do say what I think.

Anyway, just hoping for some wise words on how to keep my cool when this happens as it's really shaken me.

Also, has made me question what my children will be told in future because of people commonly still think this my very vulnerable children are at risk. No idea how to navigate this so my children come out intact and mentally healthy.

And yes, yes one liners I'll be sure to educate myself. Please start with telling me how you can be born in the wrong body.

I tend to ask trans ideologists why they are prioritising transidentifying males' "needs" over traumatised women's needs. I have never got an answer to that question. This ideology has resulted in several of my friends and family not being able to access toilets in some public places such as theatres and restaurants anymore. What is inclusive about that?

I genuinely did not see the massive problem initially with women’s spaces until I realised that so many women have been subject to abuse in their lives and it is really traumatising for them.

I think it was looking across the pond to see how far they had gone with lack of free speech, women not being able to complain if men (I mean by that unlikely to be genuinely trans individuals) walk through the door which has been propped open trans campaigners without considering the consequences and big pharma/ hospitals pushing for unquestioned medication and surgical transition for young, vulnerable children and teens.

And from a male perspective (which I am for those not aware), it's kind of insulting to suggest that the men's room is so unsafe. I've seen quite a few fights in my life - on the dance floor, at the bar, outside the bar, walking down the street, on a bus, on a train... in fact almost everywhere except in the men's toilets.

I'm sure it's happened but the justification for transwomen to use women's toilets just isn't there.. They use it because they want to. Women should be more comfortable asking other men for help. Most guys, especially more blokey ones, would be plenty happy to block another guy from going in there or - with clear invitation - go in remove one. And no, I'm not talking violence, just simple "no, you ain't doing that mate".

Seriously - women should ask for help more often with this. Just pick the right guys to ask.

It is truly terrifying that these deluded women will gladly sacrifice their own children to be on "right side of history". I don't think it is your neurodiversity that is making you "uncomfortable", it is your natural womanly maternal instinct to protect children.

@mybodyisme I wonder if the latest developments from Ritchie Herron would be worth them reading? He has a substack that's brutal and honest.

I have lots of friends with different views, politically and morally. We are all friends , we have healthy discussion and if it gets too heated we change the subject.

You can be friends with people who are very different to you. That's ok!

Not when you're witnessing child abuse