Guardian states absolute untruth on medical treatment

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In an article on Mississippi the Guardian included these paragraphs:

"Mississippi is among the US states that have pursued a barrage of restrictions pertaining to transgender youth medical care, sports participation and bathroom use. Earlier this year, the state’s conservative governor, Tate Reeves, signed into law a legislative bill which prohibits health professionals from providing both hormone treatments and surgical procedures to transgender minors.

Such gender-affirming care is medically necessary and potentially lifesaving for children and adults diagnosed with gender dysphoria."

That statement is categorically untrue and represents deliberate misinfomation. No gender affirming care is "medically necessary" for anyone, let alone children; and has no connection to "saving lives".

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/21/trans-girl-mississippi-high-school-graduation

What a weird thing to put into an article about insisting that a male student must wear trousers.

The issue was surely whether a student should be allowed a choice of traditionally male or female clothing (provided that clothing is suitable for the occasion and covers the necessities, so to speak).

It doesn’t need a paragraph about the dubiously life saving nature of hormone therapy because that’s not what was preventing the student graduating.

If this care saves lives, where are all the deaths in my generation and older, where thjs made up medicine isnt available? Where are the thousands of women who really wanted to be men and were denied the opportunity? Have the suicide stats for this age group gone down or up?

Another article in the Guardian today: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/may/22/i-dont-feel-like-i-was-born-into-the-wrong-body-theres-not-a-right-or-wrong-way-to-be-trans

What a load of self indulgent tripe! Especially the suicide threats thrown in. 'Respect whatever pronouns I'm using today, or else!'

Blimey @NotTerfNorCis. With all my 20 years on MN I have never presented a with such conviction as I do now to Madison.

OMG imagine being stuck next to Madison at a party/wedding/training course!😭

Is the Guardian not regulated by IPSO? Trying to complain about this blatantly unevidenced opinion stated as fact, but the Guardian isn't an option on IPSOs web form.

No, I believe it isn't but 'self-regulates'.

The readers editor is their self-regulating mechanism

That Madison article really sums up the Guardian for me. Happy load of bollocks day 😂.

Well I've complained via that route, which I'm sure the totally impartial Guardian will consider in good faith

The only way to push back is to write in to the Guardian. They may valiantly try to ignore/not publish to a point, but can’t do it endlessly with large numbers of letters pointing out the nonsense in such articles.

I think what Madison is describing used to be described as ‘having a personality’ and ‘rejecting gender stereotypes’.

Wait a minute…is Madison…gender critical? 😮

Madison's a bellend, if that helps

Amongst all the rest of it, I’m struggling to understand why swapping from soprano to alto is relevant?

(there is much more than that I’m struggling with, but for some reason that stood out 🤣)

I listened to Savage Minds the other day and Julian Vigo used the term 'bollocksology' 😆

Oh my giddy aunt what have I just read ? I don’t know whether to laugh or cry. Eyeliner and boxer shorts ? Swapping from soprano to alto ?
<holds head in hands>

As annoying as Madison comes across (to the point I wonder if the interview was planted to generate exactly that reaction), I’d be happier if more trans identifying people had her views, that medical intervention is not necessary and to enjoy the body you’ve already got.

I'm sorry, I couldn't read the while thing. I did get this far, though:

"Medically transitioning, sometimes involving hormone therapy or surgical procedures, can constitute an integral part of a person’s journey of gender affirmation – but pursuing this process is not a prerequisite of being trans or non-binary, and does not determine the validity of anyone’s gender identity."

Can we stop giving people x-sex hormones and cutting off/out their sex organs now, please?

Every person who describes themselves as non-binary is a hair’s breadth away from being GC.

That hair represents self-importance. Once they realise they’re not actually different to or better than anyone whose been before, they realise their personality and rejection of stereotypes makes them GC, not special.

Terrible self-indulgent nonsense. I see that Madison identifies as a poet.

people often assume that “trans” is an abbreviation of “transitioning”. Yet the word “trans”, in this context – as opposed to the context of, say, a public transport service or an eminent Death Cab for Cutie album – is short for transgender, which the Oxford dictionary defines as “a person whose gender identity does not correspond with the sex registered for them at birth”. On most birth certificates, there is an M or F box ticked for newborn babies. So at the level of language, to be transgender means not aligning one’s own identity with that rigid box on an official document – and there was no non-binary option on mine.

Lot of words to say 'I'm not like the other girls, I'm special'.

Imagine someone announcing they identify out of gravity and when others point out that they still seem to be subject to gravity like everyone else, denouncing them all as bigots and transgravityphobes. Well, that's how non-binary comes across to me.

‘The labels we use are a personal choice’ exactly that Madison we know! If you really that thought you would stop referring to people as CIS. Can’t have it both ways!

Twaddle!

Each new generation simply feels it has to re-invent the wheel.

I always wonder this too.

inhabits gender beyond a binary is just putting words together to make no sense at all.

Agree. Does one “inhabit” a gender? 🤷‍♀️