Trans hockey player injures teenage girl in Scotland

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Oli London has retweeted a Reduxx article and added:

The incident occurred at Monarch Hockey Club in Scotland where the male, who was described as being built like a ‘rugby player’, reportedly tackled a girl to the ground leaving her with neck, hip and arm injuries.
The game had to be halted while the injured girl was removed from the field.

The official guidance from Scottish Hockey (SH), the sport’s governing body, explicitly states that participation on teams should be based entirely on gender self-identification.
“Hockey is a non-contact sport and SH sanctions men’s, mixed and women’s hockey competitions; as such there are no evidenced safety concerns for any trans male or female wishing to take part in sanctioned hockey competitions, in training or friendly/recreational hockey.

Have any of them ever played hockey?
It seemed to me while playing it as a child that it was full of aggressive contact with sticks and hard balls.

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I once broke someone’s nose in hockey. Totally accidental- we were both head down going for the ball and her nose collided with my forehead. If I was a man with the extra weight and power I could have knocked her unconscious.

No way would I allow my daughter to play against TW.

State sanctioned violence against women. Bet the men’s rights activists that promote this are spunking into their pants with glee at a girl getting injured.

Because this is what this is. Make no mistake about this. Whatever purposely confusing words are uttered in the name of “trans rights”.

Sums it up!

He's not even trying to look like a woman. He's just a ringer for the team, surely.

Having played hockey and been quite aggressive on the pitch I would not say that it's a non-contact sport. I definitely would not have fancied my chances against him.

Mumsnet, stop deleting my posts calling men men and expressing my concern for womens safety.

Who played against that team? Did THEY have a male bodied athlete on their team too? Did they know the opposition did? Of course you’re going to get ‘everyone gets injuries from hockey, blaming it on the fact that this person was trans is transphobic’ But we know don’t we? We know and they know it’s not fucking fair.

I would be tempted to sue the powers that be that allowed this to happen. Not the trans individual themselves but the facilitating body that believes it’s fair to put a male-bodied person in a team of girls/women in a sport where collisions are likely and where the extra speed and power is an advantage. Did some of their matches get played at St Andrews Uni? Some SERIOUSLY rich (American) parents there who could rustle up the funds for a legal challenge. And a Radical Feminist Group based there apparently that seems to be garnering support from the women who aren’t happy with the way things are going for women in these fucking insane times.

@PaleBlueMoonlight as it stands I see no reason why a ‘mixed’ hockey team couldn’t be 11 biological males

@Theeyeballsinthesky ... thank you for the explanation of the mixed hockey rules.

Without knowing the details of the infraction it seems wrong that if a foul was given as described in the article that the offending player was not also carded.

The key to arguing against the inclusion of this player in a female team is in competitive fairness as set out in the guiding principles of the Equality in Sport document.

Mixed hockey exists and I do not believe that there is a will in the sport to remove mixed hockey.

Agree, there was a horrible (and very large - not fat, but bulky) girl I sometimes played against who literally bulldozed. And a tackle when there is a big power imbalance makes it feel like a contact sport.

Non contact my arse. Tell that to my tooth that went flying after a hockey stick made contact with it.

this^

I played at school. Unless the rules have changed (it was decades ago):

If the ball hits above the knee then it’s a foul from whoever sent the ball up, but it happened fairly regularly as if 2 players go in for it you don’t have control. Concussion wasn’t that uncommon. If it hits below the knee it’s counted as a foul against the player that it hit (as it’s a foul to kick the ball). Therefore it was a common tactic to hit the ball as hard as you could at calf height - if it ‘accidentally’ hit someone on the opposite team you won a free hit. Very hard hits to the ankles were very common.

Things like this just prove its not about access to sports. There are mixed teams the male player could join. They always go for the womens. NB male- womens
Trans male- womens. Tolestosterone taking females- womens. Women get fucked over every way possible

We have mens teams and anyone who doesn't want to play with mens teams.

Its about removing women from having anything at all.

When I was at school I was on the hockey team. We had a boy allowed to play at practice ( not matches) i still remember the massive bruise akd the pain from.taking a hockey ball hed hit to the shin.

Yes, sadistic violence against women perpetrated by males

Well done Nicola.

You weren't forced to play mixed hockey though - you had a choice.

Do you know the damage a hockey ball can do?

Quite.

I’m sick of this shit.

Im sure there were carded - probably a yellow so basically 10 mins rest and then back on

id be very surprised if it was a red. DH is v involved in hockey umpiring and has said in the past the reds in women’s hockey which is what this was technically are much rarer

This would seem to suggest strongly that Hockey Scotland, Monarchs Hockey Club and others are being negligent in not using the most recent and most accurate widely available advice.

I'd suggest that's a good basis for a successful law suit for damages. 'Did you follow advice on best practice regarding participant safety prior to the female hockey being severely injured by a male-bodied player who she was told was a woman?' 'Erm, no, we preferred the pure ideological approach of forcing non-consensual compliance. Thoughts and prayers, though.'

Yep. This isn't about them feeling like women, it's about them hating women. It's a disgrace and some people cheer it on.

Exactly. My choice. My point was it was not a soft, fluffy non contact sport. The men on these teams knew about the possibility of injuring the woman and held back a bit... I'm not convinced that a player who believes they are a woman would have the same awareness.

Ime mixed hockey is very different. It tends to be played for social/fun rather than in competitive leagues, and while the men might target the women, they would never go in on them as hard as they would against a man. My teenagers play mixed in the summer. The boys are told in no uncertain terms how they are expected to behave.

also, dd was hospitalised with a brain injury after the ball hit her head. If it had been hit by a boy rather than another girl, she could easily be dead. I don’t understand how anyone thinks it’s ok to increase the risks so much for women and girls. I really hope the club/SH get sued

Im sure there were carded - probably a yellow so basically 10 mins rest and then back on

You're sure are you? Really? Well, I'm certain that he was not carded. Admittedly, that knowledge was gleaned by the strange and unusual method of Reading. The. Article.

By coincidence, a colleague mentioned at dinner that he coaches and referees hockey, which he got into, because his daughters play.

I mentioned the case, he rolled his eyebrows and said, "In-fucking-sanity, I don't know what they are playing at. They won't stop before someone is killed."