The language of reporting is changing

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https://news.sky.com/story/rapist-who-identifies-as-woman-sent-to-male-prison-after-being-convicted-of-assaulting-friend-12877914

Slowly, but surely (even though they use 'she', the article is actually very clear).

I agree - also if you're 20 and have already served 2 years in jail for sexual activity with a child you really haven't been letting the grass grow under your feet.

Aggressive looking bloke, he ll be out in 6 years. Time for a castration.

How exactly does one "identify as a woman" whilst using one's penis to rape someone?

well I guess he said 'I feel like a woman' and was just tragically misunderstood

(sorry I'm sometimes untoward about convicted rapists and those who've been convicted of sexually abusing children)

Yes, I couldn't help noticing that The Daily Mail used 'her penis' in scare quotes in their report and commented on how the perpetrator was referred to in court, which I don't recall them doing previously: https://archive.ph/8cAJm

Hopefully one of the media will finally challenge the IPSO trans guidelines that force the press to lie to the public. It will likely be one of the seemingly endless procession of sex offenders that will break the spell.

There really should be a study about the percentage/numbers of male sexual offenders who identify as trans. There seems to be loads of them.

Do you think they genuinely are 'trans' in their minds or is that they jump on this idea as it means they get to serve their custodial sentences in female prisons. I've noticed people are convicted of heinous sex crimes and suddenly decide they identify as a woman.

Yes it’s excellent that the pronouns are in quotation marks. All news outlets should follow suit though i’m sure the likes of the BBC and Guardian will carry on putting rapists first.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ec01ddb4-ef41-11ed-b02d-cefaa3091195?shareToken=70cf8d16efd3b70871771e5a52f7dd1c

The same in the Times- quite carefully written to avoid pronouns unless in direct quotes.

It's now well known, @MaterDei, that an increasing number of men discover their inner womanliness when they're about to see the inside of a court room.

Do you think they genuinely are 'trans' in their minds or is that they jump on this idea as it means they get to serve their custodial sentences in female prisons. I've noticed people are convicted of heinous sex crimes and suddenly decide they identify as a woman.

Does it matter if they are or aren't? I'm not interested in their motivation. The end result is that there is a higher proportion of trans identifying men in prisons for sexual violence.

I think it does matter, yes. I'm certain if a study looked into this issue it would show that men are 'identifying as women' as a means of manipulating the system. We need evidence demonstrating how self ID makes a mockery of women's rights.

Opening sentence of the Telegraph report:

"A transgender woman who raped her friend in an “especially shocking” attack will be jailed at a men’s prison."

Claimed to have suffered blackouts and that gender dysphoria wot made me do it.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/05/10/transwoman-convicted-rape-jailed-male-prison/

Well that's the crux of all the problems isn't it? Trans is defined as self ID and nothing more. A woman is anyone who feels like a woman.
Under those definitions he is trans without any doubt. Even if his motives are predatory or in bad faith there is no mechanism in the definition to distinguish. He is trans to the fullest definitions of trans if he says he's trans.
I know what you are saying when you ask if he's genuinely trans, but under the new regime he is trans without any doubt if he says he is. There is no question of him not being trans. He is. Although his gender might be rapist according to the recent Scottish Principals.

One piece of evidence is that a large proportion of them "detransition" when they get out of prison. I can't remember where the figures are from, possibly Scotland.

It should be illegal for sex offenders to change their name, ever. Similar story where a girl who's father horrifically sexually assaulted her changed his name and id'ed as a woman once he got out of jail.
I'm also in favour of castration for repeat offenders- offered as the only alternative to life imprisonment.

I think it does matter, yes. I'm certain if a study looked into this issue it would show that men are 'identifying as women' as a means of manipulating the system. We need evidence demonstrating how self ID makes a mockery of women's rights.

How could a study possibly show the motivation of male transitioners though? Men who transition to play the system are hardly likely to confess are they?

Well if their declaration coincides with a court date or arrest....pretty obvious no?

So a man who identifies as a woman before raping with "her penis" is genuinely trans, even though their behaviour couldn't possibly be that of a woman?

No, that's not what I said.

This is really good. Not hat long back it took some detective work to work things out.

If the stats showed that most of these guys transitioned after entering the court or prison system, we could conclude most were using it as a means to gain an easier time in prison or other considerations. That tells us something about how far offenders will go, but that's about it.

On the other hand, if they found that there were an unusual number of sex offenders who had identified as trans before that, it would suggest that there is some other link - maybe that people who offend sexually have other kinds of abnormal or unusual sexual proclivities, perhaps, or something else. which would be a significant finding.

This blood began identifying as trans after he was released from prison on sex offences.

What do people think that says about his motivation?

He wants to apply for a job and to utilise the Trans Loophole in the future?