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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Multiple Sclerosis video features transwoman's anecdote of getting an erection

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crsacre · 01/05/2023 19:09

Video for Multiple Sclerosis Awareness Week, on dealing with emotions:
https://www.youtube.com/live/KDa0bNlUMk8?feature=share&t=3450

A transwoman with MS talked about the need to find humour in medical situations by recounting getting an erection during an X-Ray because the female nurse was attractive. This person is an educational psychologist at the University of Southampton.
https://www.southampton.ac.uk/people/5xm59k/doctor-cora-sargeant

MS is a debilitating disease with horrible symptoms. Why did the MS Trust feature this particular experience? MS affects more women than men. Even men who have MS are unlikely to have had this experience.

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ArabeIIaScott · 01/05/2023 19:33

I daresay it happens, but treating it as a pure laugh at the nurse's expense is gross. She's not a sex object; she's a professional doing what she's trained and paid and expected to do. But of course, nobody is paying the slightest attention to how that woman might have felt, alone in a room with an 'excited' male.

Fenlandia · 01/05/2023 21:03

Considering TWAW as we're repeatedly told, why does this anecdote sound so very very male?

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 01/05/2023 21:08

Leaving aside this being a TW, a lot of men do get involuntary erections during medical treatment, due to the physical contact. It can be hideously embarrassing for them, especially teenagers, so I don't think it's necessarily inappropriate to discuss this. However, I agree that there is a striking lack of empathy for the nurse. It's all a bit Benny Hill.

LizzieSiddal · 01/05/2023 21:17

I hope this gets lots of publicity. The more times the general public get to hear about erections from TW, the better.

Chipperfish · 01/05/2023 22:17

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zibzibara · 01/05/2023 23:06

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crsacre · 01/05/2023 23:33

In other contexts it will be quite appropriate to discuss involuntary erections, but why on a programme dedicated to MS? It is not a symptom of MS.

Transwomen who take estrogen are much less likely to get erections, even when desired. Which leaves one to wonder whether this incident was real or fantasized ...

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Rightsraptor · 02/05/2023 07:58

I wasn't sure what the speaker meant when talking about being 'clocked' by the two men on the other side of the screen. Clocked as in seeing maleness? Coral was well and truly clocked by me.

HereForTheFreeLunch · 02/05/2023 08:01

An anecdote recounted by no woman ever.

MrsJamin · 02/05/2023 08:04

It's a YouTube live, they wouldn't have known that this story was shared. Why would this person mention it though? It's hardly helping anyone else. So flipping narcissistic.

zen1 · 02/05/2023 08:05

I would also be concerned about the person’s published research into the experiences of transgender young people in secondary school. According to the abstract, the research participants were aged 11-16. I hope parental permission was sought and that due safeguarding was carried out.

SleazyLizzard · 02/05/2023 08:11

I hope the Daily Mail picks this up.

oldwomanwhoruns · 02/05/2023 08:31

crsacre · 01/05/2023 23:33

In other contexts it will be quite appropriate to discuss involuntary erections, but why on a programme dedicated to MS? It is not a symptom of MS.

Transwomen who take estrogen are much less likely to get erections, even when desired. Which leaves one to wonder whether this incident was real or fantasized ...

In order to be a 'trans-women' (not a word that I ever use, personally) men do not have to take oestrogen, and most of them don't.

FrancescaContini · 02/05/2023 08:35

Really grim 🤮

Brumbies · 02/05/2023 08:38

I object to the terminology transwomen

A woman is someone born with a vagina

If you're born with a penis you're a man

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oldwomanwhoruns · 02/05/2023 08:44

I've just watched that video clip.
That horrible man.
He thinks that the whole incident was 'fun' and 'funny'.

This is why we need to get these men out of our spaces. They have zero respect or empathy for women. That think that we are things, not people. He is dressed up as a woman, making fun of us. Gross.

Vintagecreamandcottagepie · 02/05/2023 08:51

Wow, he was really relishing telling that story wasn't he?

That poor lady having to listen to it and pretend she was comfortable listening to a man in a dress regale her with his tale of being horny. And that nurse. Women being forced to be participants in make fantasy. Gross.

Wonder if he would have gone on like that if he was talking to another man?

ValancyRedfern · 02/05/2023 08:56

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 01/05/2023 21:08

Leaving aside this being a TW, a lot of men do get involuntary erections during medical treatment, due to the physical contact. It can be hideously embarrassing for them, especially teenagers, so I don't think it's necessarily inappropriate to discuss this. However, I agree that there is a striking lack of empathy for the nurse. It's all a bit Benny Hill.

Yes. I remember this happening to a relative of mine and he was utterly mortified. It's another indignity of many, when you are incapacitated and unable to take care of your own personal hygiene needs. It's something to be discussed, but not in this way. His reaction says a lot about him.

nilsmousehammer · 02/05/2023 09:02

It's the bit that really grates isn't it? You do your best initially to believe and to see TW as you would any other woman. And yet there's a steady drip of experience in encounters like this one, that makes it clear, this is a man and he is taking advantage of your enabling, and enjoying what you're letting him do.

Cosmosforbreakfast · 02/05/2023 09:02

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LaLoba · 02/05/2023 09:18

This makes me angry on a whole new level. I have MS, I’ve experienced the feelings of vulnerability in a gown, trapped inside an MRI, wondering if there are any male members of staff who find vulnerable women “exhilarating” as this creep does.
For the MS Trust to present this fetish to an audience consisting mainly of women as support absolutely revolts me in a way I can’t articulate very well.

bellinisurge · 02/05/2023 09:39

I have MS. It affects women statistically more than men. The tragedy is that when it affects men, the onset of difficult symptoms is often quicker and more severe. A man can't get out of that statistical reality by transitioning.
Wanker. Literally, it seems.

Zodfa · 02/05/2023 09:39

I doubt even a "cis" man would be able to get away with this. Another case of transwomen being able to do anything they like.

As a senior teaching fellow, this person will have regular contact with young women aged 18-21, in a position of authority. The remarks should definitely be reported to the university.

Moomoola · 02/05/2023 09:51

zibzibara · 01/05/2023 23:06

🤮

🤮indeed

MenopausalMe · 02/05/2023 10:03

Grim af

The MS trust should be ashamed of themselves leaving that part of the video up

I’m so so tired of women just being props in their sexual fantasies.

As a bisexual woman I find absolutely nothing arousing about being manipulated into position or examined for medical procedures by nurses and doctors of either sex.

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