Barbie Kardashian under Garda investigation for allegedly threatening to rape female prison officers

[ArabeIIaScott]

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/crime/barbie-kardashian-under-garda-investigation-29820564

This is a point that is often overlooked. Having Kardashian in solitary confinement doesn't protect the female staff.

'The Mirror has confirmed that the transgender prisoner is alleged to have threatened to sexually attack several female prison officers at Limerick Prison this week.
Kardashian, who is legally a woman after she secured a gender recognition certificate, is alleged to have issued the threats after she refused orders to clean up the shower area of the prison’s women’s section after she had used it.
Male prison staff had to intervene to protect their female colleagues and bring Kardashian back to her cell.'

Also:

'It is understood, however, that Kardashian regularly shouts abuse at the females on her landing when she is locked in her cell.'

So although Kardashian is physically separate from the other prisoners, he is still able to abuse them.

This whole story is just awful. The female staff should not have to be subject to this any more than the female inmates.

Quelle surprise. Poor women to have to put up with that.

How much does that level of security cost the prison service? And this person is only 21, with many many years of abuse left in them. Barbie is being moved soon apparently, hopefully it will be to a prison where they will be surrounded by big burly male prisoners who are not in danger from this vile creature.

I am not sure how Ireland could do this legally - Barbie is a woman, legally Barbie could not be put in a men's prison, surely?

This is precisely the problem with self ID, as I see it. They are effectively having to draft in male prison officers and creating a wee 'male prison' within the female prison - just to deal with this one prisoner without admitting that he is male. And this still isn't protecting staff or other prisoners from the threats of rape.

What a mess they've made for themselves, all of them, by denying reality.

Also, I'd imagine most of the women guards are seriously considering alternative careers at this point. There isn't enough money in the world to make having to put up with 'Barbie' worth it.

Where's the risk assessment for the female staff? Let me guess, they haven't bothered just as they didn't for the women prisoners. Women have human rights, remember?

At some point there will only be men willing to work in this prison, which will make it worse for the female prisoners also. I don't understand why 'Barbie' can't be kept separately in a male prison. He's basically getting a reward here as he clearly gets off on scaring women.

Exactly. It’s utterly insane.

There's provision in the UK prison service for women who can't be safely managed in the female estate to be moved to the male estate. Perhaps Ireland has something similar.

As far as I know the provision has never been used, even for that horrific psychopath who knifed her boyfriend and boasted about it, but there's always a first time.

I wonder what the mess was in the shower that BK refused to clean up. I bet I can guess.

In the UK a tiny handful of extremely dangerous criminals with a mental health diagnosis get transferred to high secure hospitals. A few more are transferred to medium secure hospitals. I am not a mental health professional or a lawyer, but surely BK meets the criteria for a secure mental health unit. Would that be possible in Ireland? Would it be possible and even legal to specify that only male HCPs should work with BK for the time being?

From what I have read about BK's childhood it would be a remarkable thing if BK was actually sane, which is desperately sad, but right now BK is a threat to all women and needs to be kept away from them.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/03/22/barbie-kardashian-the-grisly-reality-of-self-id/ Content warning: this is very graphic in places.

@Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g oh that article. It’s grim isn’t it. The life the boy had and then what he became… a monster.

Yes. I had the same thought. A fucking creep who has no place in a women’s prison.

Insane asylum surely.

BKs childhood sounds horrific, how his father could make his son rape his Mother is beyond me. In all honesty though putting BK in a womens prison is not helping BK either. It's almost inviting him to commit further offences.

Surely he belongs in a secure mental health unit, regardless of what he identifies as he’s clearly not sane.

One of things I find most chilling about BK is we have literally no idea what he looks like.

He doesn’t have a GD diagnosis and doesn’t seem to have ever been in a position to earn any money, so the likelihood of having surgery or hormones is tiny.

That means the BK in the mugshot is a non modified man in a costume.

Surely a picture like that wouldn’t go through as passport ID?

Does he bother with the costume in prison?

I know male trans prisoners in the U.K. are allowed to order from pre approved catalogues such as Avon and can get some of the women’s uniform clothing on request even when in a male prison, but I would imagine both male and female prisoners are mostly in joggers and sweatshirts nowadays and the prison pinafore dresses are only really seen on old episodes of Cell Block H?

Does anyone know what the Irish rules are re: access to clothing/wigs for trans prisoners or are the numbers so small it’s just ad hoc?

What DOES BK look like? It’s scary to think he could be released and the public would have no idea who he was without the make up.

I believe BK has been assessed and found sane. No doubt personality disorders are involved, but that's different than having a mental illness.

My friend is a prison officer in a mens prison in Dublin. There are definitely transwomen in male prisons in Ireland, they are kept separate for their own safety. Some of them have had surgery, I can't imagine that they don't have a grc, though I haven't asked him that. I don't know how it works but according to him the prison service has a certain amount of discretion about how they deal with trans prisoners.

I recall reading that the Irish law does not include psychopathy as the kind of mental health condition which would allow this to happen? That seems unbelievable to me, but the article I read said that the court in Ireland didn't have that option for Kardashian.

This is incredibly harmful, not only for all the women who cross his path in the carceral system, but for Kardashian, too, as if there is any help for the kinds of problems we witness, it would be in mental hospitals.

That photo is like a Wish version of the 1970's test card!

I think it's classed as a neurological disorder. This paper calls it a 'neuropsychiatric disorder'.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4321752/

But I do find the rationale for these classifications a bit baffling.

Didn't the prison service say it worked to the judge's orders, and the judiciary say the prison service needs to decide in a case by case basis?. So basically no one taking responsibility for where Barbie and Co end up.

as others suggest, BK's story seems a tragic one, littered with violence, probably including head injuries, it's a shame at such a young age but it seems likely that damage limitation will be the name of the same going forward.