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Bosky · 2023-04-10T03:40:23+00:00

This seems to be a very new site with plans to add more. Very handy reference and there is a Submission/Contact Page to submit extra entries. *ANTI-WOMAN BRANDS* [[https://antiwomanbrands.neocities.org/ https://antiwomanbrands.neocities.org/]] *Women continue to be mocked and sidelined by countless companies.* - Necessary items and procedures for women remain inaccessible. - Charities, organizations, and women's only spaces are disappearing. - Women are increasingly demonized by TRAs for speaking up about ^women's^ issues. *All brands listed here have chosen to align themselves with persons, organizations, and movements that continue to hurt women.* Most brands like to align themselves as "woke" so it's probably impossible to compile an exhaustive list. Things are added as they come up. *Brands* > Brands Master List [[https://antiwomanbrands.neocities.org/brands https://antiwomanbrands.neocities.org/brands]] > Megacorps [[https://antiwomanbrands.neocities.org/megacorps https://antiwomanbrands.neocities.org/megacorps]] > Health/Beauty [[https://antiwomanbrands.neocities.org/HealthBeauty https://antiwomanbrands.neocities.org/HealthBeauty]] > Food/Home [[https://antiwomanbrands.neocities.org/foodhome https://antiwomanbrands.neocities.org/foodhome]] > Clothing/Fashion [[https://antiwomanbrands.neocities.org/clothingfashion https://antiwomanbrands.neocities.org/clothingfashion]] > Dylan Sponsors [[https://antiwomanbrands.neocities.org/dylan https://antiwomanbrands.neocities.org/dylan]] *Other things* > Misogynistic Brands [[https://antiwomanbrands.neocities.org/otherbrands https://antiwomanbrands.neocities.org/otherbrands]] > Find Alternatives [[https://antiwomanbrands.neocities.org/alternatives https://antiwomanbrands.neocities.org/alternatives]] *Submissions* > Qualifying Process [[https://antiwomanbrands.neocities.org/process https://antiwomanbrands.neocities.org/process]] > Submit/Contact [[https://antiwomanbrands.neocities.org/submissions https://antiwomanbrands.neocities.org/submissions]] *More info* > Charities ^Please consider donating to or supporting women's organizations that work to help women and children in need around the world.^ [[https://antiwomanbrands.neocities.org/charities https://antiwomanbrands.neocities.org/charities]] >Plans/Change Log [[https://antiwomanbrands.neocities.org/plans https://antiwomanbrands.neocities.org/plans]] > Resources [[https://antiwomanbrands.neocities.org/resources https://antiwomanbrands.neocities.org/resources]]

PorcelinaV · 13/04/2023 15:45

TeaKlaxon · 13/04/2023 12:13

I think people can boycott whatever companies they like for whatever reason they like.

But if your reason for doing so is that they worked with a trans person, then don't try telling me that that is anything other than plain transphobia.

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Which wasn't the reason I gave. My whole point was that it was more than that for Dylan.

ATerrorofLeftovers · 13/04/2023 16:14

Flounder2022 · 13/04/2023 15:20

And I thought we were doing away with the notion that there were women clothes and men's clothes. Just clothes! You know, wear what you want.

Or does that point only apply when it fits your narrative?

I don’t care which sex wears which clothes. But advertising a sports bra on somebody without anything to put in it tells me precisely zero about its performance as a functional item.

But much worse, here, we have DM mocking women with his offensive womanface act. If you wouldn’t approve of the Black and White Minstrels, then why would you approve of that?? Why in earth would you want to hand over your hard earned cash to a mega-corp that promote such offensive material?

TeaKlaxon · 13/04/2023 16:17

Anactor · 13/04/2023 15:00

So your problem is with brands hiring trans people and then treating them in accordance with the gender they identify with.

If an advertising company or a brand treats any model in accordance with their self-identification, they are heading rapidly towards a wasted advertising budget. Actors and models are usually awful at accurate self-identification. That's why casting sites require a recent photo or a recent voice sample.

Any model should be cast according to how the customer identifies them. For example, using a ten year old to advertise beer is a no-no (and illegal in the UK), even if they do self-identify as an adult. Using someone who the customer can instantly identify as male-at-birth to promote tampons should be ridiculous - they don't use tampons for their intended purpose. It doesn't matter whether they identify as female.

In a similar way, if you used someone the customer identified as a young male to advertise tampons, you'd better be aiming at the trans-male market.

In the case of beer (sorry!) it's generally whether the often-male, often working-class customer sees the guy they'd like to be - or the woman they want to go out with. Mulvaney doesn't fit either category. Mulvaney (as a model) fits a very particular market, yet has been hired to advertise to one Mulvaney doesn't fit.

Current sales figures suggest it was a disaster. Which in turn suggests that self-identification doesn't work in advertising.

I think companies can make their own commercial decisions.

This thread is about attacking brands not for making bad commercial decisions, but for hiring trans people for promotional purposes.

And the only example of products that are specific to cisgender women are period products. No other product on that list is only for cisgender women. So for all other brands, the only beef is that a trans person got a promo gig.

TeaKlaxon · 13/04/2023 16:26

ATerrorofLeftovers · 13/04/2023 16:14

I don’t care which sex wears which clothes. But advertising a sports bra on somebody without anything to put in it tells me precisely zero about its performance as a functional item.

But much worse, here, we have DM mocking women with his offensive womanface act. If you wouldn’t approve of the Black and White Minstrels, then why would you approve of that?? Why in earth would you want to hand over your hard earned cash to a mega-corp that promote such offensive material?

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Here we have it - a trans woman is now 'womanface' and mocking women.

So again, wear what you want, call yourself what you want is all BS.

Claims that no one has a problem with trans people, provided single sex spaces are protected is all BS.

It is the very existence of trans people that you guys object to.

OneMorePlant · 13/04/2023 16:28

TeaKlaxon · 13/04/2023 14:26

So your problem is with brands hiring trans people and then treating them in accordance with the gender they identify with.

So you have no problem with trans people working with brands, as long as they don't present as or be treated as the gender they identify with. As long as a trans woman is willing to be treated like a man, she can work?

"Wear what you want...call yourself what you want" indeed.

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No the problem I have is that corporations telling us we should just accept to be mocked.

They are men, so yes. The outrage would not have been as big with bud light if they would have asked Caitlin Jenner. He is trans but at least he's not taking the piss out of us on the scale that Mulvaney is doing and stands to protect women in sports. Jenner also spoke out against Mulvaney that he was just mocking women.

If Jenner gets it why aren't you? What is your agenda?

ATerrorofLeftovers · 13/04/2023 16:35

TeaKlaxon · 13/04/2023 16:26

Here we have it - a trans woman is now 'womanface' and mocking women.

So again, wear what you want, call yourself what you want is all BS.

Claims that no one has a problem with trans people, provided single sex spaces are protected is all BS.

It is the very existence of trans people that you guys object to.

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Of course it’s womanface, what are you on??

Yes, wear what you like. But don’t prance around simpering like a bad parody of a 50s stereotype, wanting everyone to agree you’re a woman. A) you’re not and B) promoting those kind of stereotypes is arrant misogyny.

As a natural, biological woman, I find it incredibly offensive. It puts back efforts to tackle sexism by about a hundred years.

I don’t object to the existence of trans people.. I do object to being controlled and compelled to lie. Trans woman are not women, they are trans women. Trans men are trans men, not men.

Sex matters in some, important, contexts. Like sport, toilets, changing rooms, awards etc. It’s not about what you wear. And it matters that large corporations with financial and political clout are left in no doubt about what women will make of their efforts to take the piss out of us and collude in attempts to take away our rights.

Anactor · 13/04/2023 17:07

I think companies can make their own commercial decisions.

This thread is about attacking brands not for making bad commercial decisions, but for hiring trans people for promotional purposes.

And the only example of products that are specific to cisgender women are period products. No other product on that list is only for cisgender women. So for all other brands, the only beef is that a trans person got a promo gig.

There are some trans people who can pass as the gender they want to be in a photo shoot or commercial. They, like any other jobbing actor or model, can be cast according to their appearance.

There are rather more who can’t. They, like any other jobbing actor or model, should be cast according to their appearance. Not according to their self identification.

If you want trans people to be cast according to self identification, then you want them to be accorded a special privileged status. One that is not accorded to any other jobbing actor or model.

If the thread is about hiring trans people for promotional purposes, then the question of whether hiring a particular trans person currently looks like a commercial disaster - is relevant, wouldn’t you say? It’s no use arguing that a product (like beer) is drinkable by any trans person over 18, if the trans model advertising the beer discourages a large number of the current customers from buying it.

The ‘beef’ then is not just that they got the promo gig, but that they really shouldn’t have. Whoever cast them wasn’t thinking whether they were the best person to cast to sell the product, they were thinking whether they were the best person to cast to impress their social circle.

Unfortunately, it looks like their social circle doesn’t buy the product…

PorcelinaV · 13/04/2023 17:49

TeaKlaxon · 13/04/2023 16:26

Here we have it - a trans woman is now 'womanface' and mocking women.

So again, wear what you want, call yourself what you want is all BS.

Claims that no one has a problem with trans people, provided single sex spaces are protected is all BS.

It is the very existence of trans people that you guys object to.

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Have you actually seen Dylan's videos?

Are you trying to deny that they involve a ridiculous stereotype of women?

SammyScrounge · 13/04/2023 17:57

"I think companies can make their own commercial decisions."

And take the consequences. Women will decide.who gets their cash.

nepeta · 13/04/2023 18:08

TeaKlaxon · 13/04/2023 16:26

Here we have it - a trans woman is now 'womanface' and mocking women.

So again, wear what you want, call yourself what you want is all BS.

Claims that no one has a problem with trans people, provided single sex spaces are protected is all BS.

It is the very existence of trans people that you guys object to.

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But the definition of existence of trans people can't be that they don't exist if they are not allowed to alter the definition of 'woman' and 'man' for everyone in the whole world. That sounds much more like a demand for some kind of a dictatorship, because we are all affected by this attempt to change the meaning of basic words, the very words which we have always been taught to be referring to sex.

This proposed change affects everybody, and so everybody should be heard in public consultations about this proposed change.

Its effects on feminism are disastrous, for instance, as sexism and misogyny will continue affecting female people, but we are stripped of our ability to fight them, and now sexist stereotypes are creeping back into societies where they looked almost vanquished.

Why not agree that trans people clearly exist, but that they are still the sex they were born into? That there are ways of being feminine for male people and ways for being masculine for female people and that those ways are perfectly acceptable?

That's what I think JK Rowling meant with her statement:

To reduce gender stereotypes, to allow individuals more freedom, to make those rigid little gender boxes bigger whenever and wherever this is possible, while acknowledging that biological sex matters in some situations for all and that fighting sexism and misogyny absolutely requires that we can name people of the female sex so that we can fight for them in places such as Afghanistan and Iran.

To me 'womanface' is about making misogynistic fun of adult female human beings while not being one. Many drag queens do that and Mulvaney is doing that (or, rather, 'girlface' as Mulvaney acts out a parody of a pre-teen girl).

So Mulvaney is an example of a trans woman who does do 'womanface'. I don't think trans people, in general, practice 'womanface,' but that still doesn't make them change sex or give them the right to redefine such concepts as 'female,' 'feminine' or 'woman and girl' for all the rest of us.

ATerrorofLeftovers · 13/04/2023 18:11

nepeta · 13/04/2023 18:08

But the definition of existence of trans people can't be that they don't exist if they are not allowed to alter the definition of 'woman' and 'man' for everyone in the whole world. That sounds much more like a demand for some kind of a dictatorship, because we are all affected by this attempt to change the meaning of basic words, the very words which we have always been taught to be referring to sex.

This proposed change affects everybody, and so everybody should be heard in public consultations about this proposed change.

Its effects on feminism are disastrous, for instance, as sexism and misogyny will continue affecting female people, but we are stripped of our ability to fight them, and now sexist stereotypes are creeping back into societies where they looked almost vanquished.

Why not agree that trans people clearly exist, but that they are still the sex they were born into? That there are ways of being feminine for male people and ways for being masculine for female people and that those ways are perfectly acceptable?

That's what I think JK Rowling meant with her statement:

To reduce gender stereotypes, to allow individuals more freedom, to make those rigid little gender boxes bigger whenever and wherever this is possible, while acknowledging that biological sex matters in some situations for all and that fighting sexism and misogyny absolutely requires that we can name people of the female sex so that we can fight for them in places such as Afghanistan and Iran.

To me 'womanface' is about making misogynistic fun of adult female human beings while not being one. Many drag queens do that and Mulvaney is doing that (or, rather, 'girlface' as Mulvaney acts out a parody of a pre-teen girl).

So Mulvaney is an example of a trans woman who does do 'womanface'. I don't think trans people, in general, practice 'womanface,' but that still doesn't make them change sex or give them the right to redefine such concepts as 'female,' 'feminine' or 'woman and girl' for all the rest of us.

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Agree with all of this.

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Bosky · 14/04/2023 00:08

Interesting! Tampax seeking to distance itself from Ditsy Dylan "Misogynist" Mulvaney:

Tampax - 10 April 2023
"Thanks for getting in touch. We can confirm that we do not have a sponsorship agreement with Dylan Mulvaney or Jeffrey Marsh."
https://twitter.com/Tampax/status/1645384717443772420

(Archived on Archive Today)

Of course it was not Tampax who sponsored Jeffrey Marsh, it was "L" - another Proctor & Gamble brand.

https://twitter.com/Sorelle_Arduino/status/1612731901634306058

(Archived on Archive Today)

L's slogan: "L for every V" whilst sponsored male Jeffrey Marsh - an M who is obviously somewhat deficient in the V department.

Also L:

"As part of our foundation work, we partnered with The Phluid Project to change conversations around periods and the perception of who has one."
https://www.thisisl.com/our-story/

The Phluid Project is also "changing conversations", around housing male murderers and rapists in women's prisons - but not in a good way.

45-Year-Old “Non-Binary” Man Offered Tampon Sponsorship Scolds Women For “Policing Gender Roles”
Reduxx January 12, 2023

"In 2020, This is L partnered with the Phluid Project in a promotional video featuring individuals of varying “gender identities” to spread the message that periods are not specific to females. Amongst the “queer” influencers who shilled their “gender neutral” menstrual products were Blair Imani and Alok Vaid-Menon.

Phluid is a “gender free” clothing and lifestyle brand based in New York which also often involves itself in trans activism. On its website, Phluid states that it “…support[s] the most at risk of the LGBTQIA+ community [by] supporting trans-led organizations.” Phluid has provided direct support to the Sylvia Rivera Law Project, which provides assistance to incarcerated males who wish to change their gender or be moved to a women’s institution.

Among the inmates the SRLP has worked with are convicted child murderer Synthia Chyna Blast, who was invited to be part of their prisoner action committee, and Xena Grandichelli, who raped a toddler yet assisted with SRLP’s community outreach."

More at:
https://reduxx.info/45-year-old-non-binary-man-offered-tampon-sponsorship-scolds-women-for-policing-gender-roles/

(Archived on Archive Today)

Alok! Who could forget Alok - much as we would like to.

Exposing Trans Predator: Alok Vaid-Menon
Blaire White - 14 July 2021