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Harry Potter TV series deal happening soon JKR involved

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fromorbit · 04/04/2023 04:02

Warner Brothers Discovery are close to cutting a deal with JKR for a HP TV series a new adaption of the original books with a season per book. JKR will be involved to ensure accuracy to the books, but will not be showrunner. She is going to make A LOT of money from this.

More details.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-04-03/warner-bros-nears-deal-for-a-new-harry-potter-television-series?

The Anti Women's Rights side of the internet are losing their minds. However I am thinking that it is pretty clear that they don't matter as much as they think. The failure to cancel Hogwarts Legacy in fact it becoming one of the most successful games ever making over a billion dollars so far has shown their discourse is limited in the real world.

They threw everything they had at Hogwarts Legacy and utterly failed.

Why does this matter? Because it show the only reason Genderism is doing well is because of control of certain sections of the political and cultural sphere and in reality most people, even those in the cultural world, do not go along with its core tenets. JKR will use some of that money to support the battle against sexism. More proof that our side is gathering strength.

So time to push forward because this stuff is insidious, the quicker we move the more lives we can save.

More to the point JKR will hopefully insist that the core of the show remains British. That is going to bring the UK 100s of millions in acting, media and tourism AGAIN. So again we get to ask who in the UK stands with her or against her?

Warner Bros. Nears Deal for Harry Potter Video Series

Warner Bros. Discovery Inc. is close to a deal for a new online TV series based on Harry Potter, the best-selling young adult books, according to two people with knowledge of the matter.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-04-03/warner-bros-nears-deal-for-a-new-harry-potter-television-series?cmpid=socialflow-twitter-business&leadSource=reddit_wall

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PriOn1 · 04/04/2023 04:43

They threw everything they had at Hogwarts Legacy and utterly failed.

I would be interested to know to what extent their foot stamping actually gave Legacy extra impetus.

There’s an interesting dynamic here, where it is publishers, promoters and those who control the arts who are driving an agenda which is not supported by the wider public. And where the public see it happening, it seems to me they are voting with their wallets whenever they see the opportunity.

Perhaps it’s me not reading the room and they are correct, but I should imagine if, for example, Father Ted the Musical went ahead, there would be swathes of women attending now, in addition to the original Ted fans, who won’t care about a load of wailing, foot stamping teens and young adults.

Telling people what not to buy often has the opposite effect. Look at Relax by Frankie Goes to Hollywood. It was a fairly mediocre song that gained notoriety and publicity from being branded forbidden fruit by the BBC. Unpopular activists telling people what not to buy will have the same effect.

I guess, to look at children’s publishing for example, the reason this ideology is so entrenched is that key figures have transitioned their children and thus cannot begin to admit that transitioning children is harmful. But how long can that hold? How long do the public have to put up with sub-par work because a powerful minority have backed themselves into what is admittedly, the worst corner imaginable?

But a Potter series is something to really look forward to. If anyone is to thrive amidst all this outrage, I’m glad it’s Joanne Rowling. I can’t imagine a more deserving woman. We are immensely lucky to have her.

Rowthe · 04/04/2023 04:47

Ooh I'd love to watch this.

My kids are just the right age to introduce them to the Potter Universe.

Depends what age the series is aimed at, but it will be a great gateway into the series for a whole new set of fans.

Bustard · 04/04/2023 04:56

Amazing! I think TV is a much better medium than movies for adaptations, you can do so much more with a whole season than with a 2 hour film. I hope it's really big budget high end TV like game of thrones.

Fukuraptor · 04/04/2023 09:02

I've wanted this for years. The movies were the action movie version of the story and lost a lot of the humour, mystery, character development, world building, drama and political commentary in the service of that main good versus evil plot line particularly as larger books got squeezed into the screen play lengths. The ability to make the later series longer if necessary so they aren't rushed will be brilliant.

His Dark Materials worked well I think to explore the complexities of the characters and the world.

I also feel the Strike books were squashed a fair bit and could have been given the breathing room that the later Shetland series got to really allow us time to engage with some of the suspects/theories and characters rather than zipping through everything. I hope they'll give the others more space.

Fukuraptor · 04/04/2023 09:10

Just looking at it again. It says online TV/video series so I'm not sure it'll be the His Dark Materials treatment that I'd like. But still, very interesting!

RoyalCorgi · 04/04/2023 09:17

There’s an interesting dynamic here, where it is publishers, promoters and those who control the arts who are driving an agenda which is not supported by the wider public. And where the public see it happening, it seems to me they are voting with their wallets whenever they see the opportunity.

This is spot-on. I just saw a tweet by Frances Barber this morning saying that she's received more cards addressed to the theatre she's currently performing in than she has ever had before - and they are from people congratulating her on her pro-science stance.

People continue to buy the Harry Potter books, watch the films and buy tickets for the West End play. They also buy the Cormoran Strike books and watch the tv series. JK Rowling is still one of the most successful authors in history.

You only have to look at the opinion polls in Scotland about the gender reform proposals there - the vast majority of the public were against them.

There is a massive disconnect between what the people running our arts institutions (and the NHS, the charity sector, the justice system etc) think and what the general public think. This can't continue. The public are voting with their wallets and eventually the publishing houses and the rest will cotton on to the fact that people are far more interested in Harry Potter than they are in yet another narcissistic memoir by a gender ideologue.

OhVicIveFallen · 04/04/2023 09:23

And hopefully they'll get better child actors than the original three. (Wouldn't be hard 😆)

Backstreets · 04/04/2023 09:39

Haven’t touched the books since I was a child myself but if this was well done it would be incredible. And hopefully any actor ready to denounce jk at the first sign of twitter harassment will stay well away.

notsayingmuch · 04/04/2023 09:44

But, but, but, I thought that some 'fans' had taken her crown away and that she was no longer the author of the HP series? It's almost like things said on the internet are not super-effective in real life!

JacobsCrackersCheeseFogg · 04/04/2023 09:48

I was an adult when the books came out but they appealed to me because of themes if misinformation, press freedom, corruption and good old-fashioned good versus evil. I didn't think the films did the books justice. Agree with @Fukuraptor that JKR's Strike books suffered a similar fate in adaptation. So if we are able to watch this in the UK I'll be happy to see it.

Boiledbeetle · 04/04/2023 09:48

It will be interesting to see who decides that their chance to be remembered forever as an actor overrides their purity of thought on the TWAM/TWAW debate

Zodfa · 04/04/2023 11:10

More to the point JKR will hopefully insist that the core of the show remains British.

She insisted this for the movies from the start, and that was back when she had relatively little clout. I expect she'll be very involved in making sure any new series remains true to her vision.

In any case, this seems like the right next step for onscreen HP. The movies had a lot of flaws, partly just because the stories are too complex to be reduced to a couple of hours screentime. The Fantastic Beasts spinoff has become bogged down in references back to stuff from the original books, as usually happens with spinoffs, and has less freedom to tell its own stories. If what viewers really want is the original stuff, best to give it to them directly in undiluted form.

Other recent TV series adaptations of book series from the same period - like A Series of Unfortunate Events and His Dark Materials - have been excellent, and managed to overcome many of the issues these faced in earlier adaptations as movies. They've also been able to maintain impetus as watchable shows in their own right, changing things around just enough to keep even viewers who are very knowledgeable about the books guessing. There's a few oddities in the HP series - bits of magic in the earlier books that go against the rules that get established later, insufficient setup of the Horcruxes and Deathly Hallows in previous books - that it would be nice to see corrected on TV. Similarly ASOUE did a good job on TV of actually touching on VFD from the start rather than having it retconned in several books in.

sashagabadon · 04/04/2023 11:35

I hope it remains British and does not americanise. I bet they looked at success of Wednesday for Netflix and want some boarding school action too. I

SimplyAverage · 04/04/2023 12:56

Wonderful, I read the fisrt book before I had children and introduced them to the books and films. How wonderful that my Grandchildren will have - non child mutilation/sterilisation/biology denial - a new set of actors not leading them astray.

Musomama1 · 04/04/2023 13:05

Fantastic. And since that first Potter movie the industry has changed. There's a huge amount of money in TV now for a movie style budget. Hopefully a really quality series. Well, I have no doubt it will be.

I just hope the actors cast don't turn around to become ungrateful spoilt brats and throw JKR under the bus all over again.

SimplyAverage · 04/04/2023 13:12

Musomama1 · 04/04/2023 13:05

Fantastic. And since that first Potter movie the industry has changed. There's a huge amount of money in TV now for a movie style budget. Hopefully a really quality series. Well, I have no doubt it will be.

I just hope the actors cast don't turn around to become ungrateful spoilt brats and throw JKR under the bus all over again.

I don't think they will. Dan the man and Little menstruation Emma will be written in as being on the wrong side of history, along with LOJ who promised them why wouldn't.

fromorbit · 04/04/2023 13:24

PriOn1 · 04/04/2023 04:43

They threw everything they had at Hogwarts Legacy and utterly failed.

I would be interested to know to what extent their foot stamping actually gave Legacy extra impetus.

There’s an interesting dynamic here, where it is publishers, promoters and those who control the arts who are driving an agenda which is not supported by the wider public. And where the public see it happening, it seems to me they are voting with their wallets whenever they see the opportunity.

Perhaps it’s me not reading the room and they are correct, but I should imagine if, for example, Father Ted the Musical went ahead, there would be swathes of women attending now, in addition to the original Ted fans, who won’t care about a load of wailing, foot stamping teens and young adults.

Telling people what not to buy often has the opposite effect. Look at Relax by Frankie Goes to Hollywood. It was a fairly mediocre song that gained notoriety and publicity from being branded forbidden fruit by the BBC. Unpopular activists telling people what not to buy will have the same effect.

I guess, to look at children’s publishing for example, the reason this ideology is so entrenched is that key figures have transitioned their children and thus cannot begin to admit that transitioning children is harmful. But how long can that hold? How long do the public have to put up with sub-par work because a powerful minority have backed themselves into what is admittedly, the worst corner imaginable?

But a Potter series is something to really look forward to. If anyone is to thrive amidst all this outrage, I’m glad it’s Joanne Rowling. I can’t imagine a more deserving woman. We are immensely lucky to have her.

100% the drama backfired - the Streisand effect as it was called. In the run up to the launch the Gaming media run multiple articles about how Legacy was bad. Result the drama was trending not just on twitter but across web.

Loads of people bought in advance, but others bought because they heard about the game as result of the drama, some wanted to make a stand, but I think most just saw it trending and then thought cool Hogwarts and then immediately bought it.

Then when the game turned out to be fun, and lots of entertainment, and the cancellation failed it just got more absurd. Even more people bought it. Especially after people tried to cancel streamers playing the game.

Thing was this stuff happened before classic example Grand Theft Auto - the controversy made the title bigger than ever. The contrast is where as other controversies about games are about shocking edgy content, this is about a game which is harmless - it is just about kid wizards.

The success of HL totally factored into WB thinking. They calculated the franchise was probably bigger than trans drama, looking at the strength of sales and streams, and they were right. They are going to spend a huge budget on this as a key part of their big streaming platform MAX . It is aiming to counter Disney - WB have DC, Harry Potter and HBO content like Games of Thrones etc.

That is the reason they are doing a remake. Kids still love the books. Lock in the child audience in particular, while having better adult content than Disney via HBO dramas while the DC stuff will attract all ages. WB also have the streaming rights to Strike outside the UK.

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JemimaTiggywinkles · 04/04/2023 13:28

I'm so excited about this! I was a child / teenager when the books came out and queued at midnight to get a copy of Deathly Hallows. I never really took to the films, probably because they missed out so much of the important (to me) stuff.

I agree with a pp about tv versions being better than film. The new His Dark Materials was a million times better than the film.

yogacushions · 04/04/2023 13:29

Yeah!

In Private eye a while ago it mentioned that the Hannah Barnes book which got one offer was x100000 the Amazon ratings than the Bergorf one, despite the MB getting many offers.

hmmmmm it’s almost like the real world doesn’t agree with the cancellations of women’s speech.

I bought ds the expensive copy of HW just for this reason.

JellySaurus · 04/04/2023 13:32

I hope they cast a mixed-race girl as Hermione. In my head she was mixed race when I read the books, and to see EW playing her was really jarring.

Florissante · 04/04/2023 13:35

Seethe, TRAs!

JoanJettsMullet · 04/04/2023 13:49

I hope they use digital technology so that one good actor can play both the Weasley twins rather than giving the parts to any old ginger twins despite being the worst actors in the world. They ruined the films for me.

JoodyBlue · 04/04/2023 13:53

JellySaurus · 04/04/2023 13:32

I hope they cast a mixed-race girl as Hermione. In my head she was mixed race when I read the books, and to see EW playing her was really jarring.

I love this idea. Would suit the character perfectly. I'm happy about this news too. There is so much thoughtful exploration of the big themes in the Harry Potter series that young people (and older people) can spend time on whilst being entertained. The story telling of the entire thing is fantastic.

I also think a relaunch will take away some of the sting of the disloyalty of the original cast. The stories deserve a refresh, they are absolute classics.

lechiffre55 · 04/04/2023 14:12

I'd like to see a "no badmouthing" clause in the cast contracts. Bite the hand that feeds you and you're out. No badmouthing JKR or the audience.
I'd like to see that across all of TV and movies, you can have differing views, but you need to express them respectfully. Try to cancel somone you disagree with and you just cancelled yourself.

PuttingDownRoots · 04/04/2023 14:17

Would be fantastic if the child actors had a range of British accents not just pish English.

They would have to film a season a year though to have the actors age properly.

And can we keep Maggie Smith as Mcgonagall?