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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Canadian Police basically give permission for Trans Activists to attack anyone who disagrees with them

82 replies

MalagaNights · 01/04/2023 18:20

Billboard Chris who travels around North America protesting against Transing kids films his attack but police say he provoked it.

The violence is escalating, something bad is going to happen unless this is stopped.

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Helleofabore · 03/04/2023 15:36

It was male violence. There is no other description needed.

If posters find calling out male violence transphobic, then I guess they will need to learn to live with that.

A male who was screaming, literally screaming, into another male person's face then assaulted that male who they were screaming at.

There is no disguise needed. It was male on male violence.

Myalternate · 03/04/2023 15:38

If a woman (the real kind) put her hand on the chest of a man (the real kind) that was intimidating and threatening her, would it be her fault if he punched her?

DecayedStrumpet · 03/04/2023 15:44

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But of the male sex, right? Male and female are sexes not genders.

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 03/04/2023 15:50

Accusations of ‘Transphobia’ have definitely suffered from The Boy Who Cried Wolf effect.
Terf, Transphobe, Right Wing, Fascist, Nazi, all have lost their power from a combo of misuse and overuse.
Am I afraid of male violence? Yes.
Not in a debilitating, can’t live a happy life kinda way, but that’s because their are societal systems and social norms in place that exist to mitigate the disproportionate effects male violence has on women and girls. I grew up in the 80s and 90s and pretty much everyone agreed that a man should never hit a woman. Not due to chivalry, or sexist double standards, but because everyone knew that the female body cannot withstand the same force pressure as a male body (just look at car crash injury statistics).
Now we’re told that sex is a spectrum and a violent man in a wig is a woman, female spaces are colonised by males with special unseeable gender identities and the social contract is breaking down. I am afraid of violent males who identify as transgender? I think perhaps I am. Not because they are inherently more or less violent than any other male but because they are violent males who have decided the social norms of not hitting women do not apply to them.
If that makes me a ‘transphobe’ then, OK. whatever 🤷‍♀️

Puffinpanic · 03/04/2023 15:58

Hang on, so angry people were getting closer and closer screaming ‘fuck you’ in his face, fingers in his face, and the police stood there and let this happen???

This is just appalling. Like the police here, letting women get surrounded and hemmed in by angry shouting mobs.

Then of course, New Zealand too.

Why is this happening?

None of these countries would let white supremists surround and scream hate at people of colour making a stand against racists, with the police saying, well the white supreme it’s have a right to protest too. Everyone would I stand that was initimidation and harassment and dangerous to allow to continue. So why is it allowed against women?

RealityFan · 03/04/2023 15:59

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 03/04/2023 15:50

Accusations of ‘Transphobia’ have definitely suffered from The Boy Who Cried Wolf effect.
Terf, Transphobe, Right Wing, Fascist, Nazi, all have lost their power from a combo of misuse and overuse.
Am I afraid of male violence? Yes.
Not in a debilitating, can’t live a happy life kinda way, but that’s because their are societal systems and social norms in place that exist to mitigate the disproportionate effects male violence has on women and girls. I grew up in the 80s and 90s and pretty much everyone agreed that a man should never hit a woman. Not due to chivalry, or sexist double standards, but because everyone knew that the female body cannot withstand the same force pressure as a male body (just look at car crash injury statistics).
Now we’re told that sex is a spectrum and a violent man in a wig is a woman, female spaces are colonised by males with special unseeable gender identities and the social contract is breaking down. I am afraid of violent males who identify as transgender? I think perhaps I am. Not because they are inherently more or less violent than any other male but because they are violent males who have decided the social norms of not hitting women do not apply to them.
If that makes me a ‘transphobe’ then, OK. whatever 🤷‍♀️

When the annals of this period come to be written, hopefully not by ChatGPT, there'll be an enormous chapter on the sheer ironies that defy belief.

One of the biggest will be "words of transphobes are literal violence" compared to "the violence of a TRA upon a woman is literal violence"

Case for the prosecution, the old lady in Auckland who said a hurty word to the fist flying towards her skull.

Signalbox · 03/04/2023 16:07

PlanetLuna · 03/04/2023 14:45

@Signalbox
From one of the angles you can see that Chris put his hand on the man’s chest to keep some distance between them.

I saw this too. This should have never gotten physical. Billboard Bill is a complete prick and provocateur, fuck him, but the blonde was too close & in his face. The police should never have allowed the counter-protesters to get that close to him. I don’t know what they were thinking.

That said, the narrative that Bill was attacked unprovoked is clearly not true as he was the first to make physical contact. He shoved the blonde first. The police intervened and broke it up quickly after the shove & subsequent take down, but they should never have allowed it to get physical.

My understanding, in terms of UK law, is if you are in fear of being attacked you can claim self-defence even if you do "make physical contact" first. The man who is repeatedly shouting "fuck you" in CE's face was clearly exhibiting aggressive and threatening behaviour. I don't know what the laws are in Canada but the below link suggests that "unwanted touching" would not always constitute and assault. It's also I hard to imagine that if this situation was reversed, with a man shouting "fuck you" over and over in a trans person's face, the offending party would not have been arrested and charged with threatening behaviour and some sort of hate crime within a blink of an eye.

https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/other-autre/rsddp-rlddp/p5.html

Self-Defence - Detailed Examination of New Section 34 of the Criminal Code - Bill C-26 (S.C. 2012 c. 9) Reforms to Self-Defence and Defence of Property: Technical Guide for Practitioners

Department of Justice Canada's Internet site

https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/other-autre/rsddp-rlddp/p5.html

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