Helen Webberley cleared.

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Today, I celebrate the news that my appeal was successful and the proceedings are over. Even after intense scrutiny of my work and over a hundred allegations, my fitness to practise medicine has not been found to be impaired, I have no restrictions on my practice and I can resume my life-saving work. The case ends today and the proceedings are over.
The stringent analysis of this case will only serve to assist other doctors wanting to provide care for their trans patients. If I can develop the skills to help this group of patients then so can they. I am simply a well-meaning, well-educated GP who was willing to learn how best to provide this care and I was brave enough to stand against the outdated NHS model of care which is evidently not fit for purpose in its current state.

https://www.gendergp.com/helen-webberley-statement-gmc/?tw=1

WPATH is a lobby group. Their lobby documents are not the same NHS guidelines and shouldn’t be compared. Do you also agree with their chapter on eunuchs written by child abusers?

WPATH is a group of self-interested parties who campaign, amongst other things, for 'eunuch' to be a recognised 'gender identity'. Their guidelines aren't worth the paper they're written on.

Recently some of the people involved in WPATH including psychologist Erica Anderson and surgeon Marci Bowers (both of them transgender) have started arguing against affirming and medicating children who identify as transgender.

There are no UK recognised 'suggested guidelines' which advocate giving opposite sex hormones to children as young as 12 following a telephone diagnosis of 'transgenderism' as Webberley was doing. Isn't this why her husband was struck off? The UK guidelines don't allow opposite sex hormones to be administered until at least 16 years of age.

New England and Wales guidelines will automatically involve social services in cases where children are being given wrong sex hormones and/or GNRHa drugs outside of the NHS.

So it’s more likely that parents will be prosecuted for child endangerment than any HCP (especially if the children aren’t being properly supervised for growth impairment or being given bone density scans).

Webberly is unlikely to get an NHS job with a criminal conviction for running an illegal clinic but I doubt she’d want one?

Much more money to be made via websites operating all across the EU than there is in standardised NHS pay.

Her husband, the other Dr Webberly is permanently struck off so they are down to one income.

Lots of complaining about GenderGP’s shoddy service all over the web today.

NHS trusts also restrict what GPs can prescribe eg. https://www.derbyshirehealthcareft.nhs.uk/getting-help/understanding-your-medication/who-can-prescribe-my-medicines

Webberly is unlikely to get an NHS job with a criminal conviction for running an illegal clinic but I doubt she’d want one?

Much more money to be made via websites operating all across the EU than there is in standardised NHS pay.

Before latching onto the trans gravy train, Webberley was involved in 'shadow prescribing', which enabled Americans to get medication at NHS prices. She's never been content with just an NHS or GP salary.

Wow. Shady!

I seem to remember her flogging clomid online and advertising her website on the TTC and IVF boards on here?

Either someone understands that changing children’s hormones is child abuse, or they don’t.

I hope that when Helen Webberley finally notices the voices of detransitioners, and begins to understand the harm she has done, she gets the therapy she needs.

Really really bad news. Those poor kids and those poor families who run into HW and her ilk in their hour of need.

While places like the Tavistock are defunded, the health care needs of the trans community are woeful.

It is only through services such as Dr Webberley that many can get help as is available elsewhere in the civilised world.

I'm glad she won. Her persecution was unjust.

Can this be overruled by the high Court? Wtf, how can this be allowed when the regulatory body say she should get struck off. Can we complain to our mp etc? This tribunal court has made a shocking decision against all reason and science surely!

If you are going down the unsafe route of taking hormones meant for the opposite sex, I'm pretty sure the NHS won't monitor you. Make sure whichever snake oil seller you choose, properly follows you up, and don't go crying to the rest of us when it ends up going horribly wrong.

Sarah Phillimore has a pretty good overview of this case and all its complexities on her blog.

https://sarahphillimore.substack.com/p/webberley-v-general-medical-council?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

The amount of wilfull damage to gender diverse kids in this thread is actually shocking.

The faux-concern and 'tears' for these kids isnt remotely backed up by actual service users, who were grateful for the healthcare.

The GMC should have brought forward 'all those detransitioners' but they didnt exist.

Problem is, GenderGP is only a fraction of the job.

They can’t take bloods, they can’t do scans, they are clueless when something goes wrong and leave their customers adrift with no routine follow up and no endocrInologist on staff.

At least the other private services can see patients in person when required and are able to integrate with the NHS, which is really important when a patient has other pre-existing physical or mental health conditions.

The other private services don’t prescribe to minors because they aren’t paediatric specialists.

And GIDS’ problems weren’t caused by a lack of funds, on the contrary, NHS England sent more money than they could spend. The waiting list rocketed because GIDS couldn’t recruit or retain staff. It was never a financial thing - the accounts are all published online.

Why does a ‘gender diverse kid’ need ‘healthcare’?

So people can profit off them?

Quite!

Comments from Reddit on thread near-identical to the OP here on MN:

"They only care about the money"

Yup.

See? There is common ground between terves and transgender people, both communities acknowledge that GenderGP provide a subpar, unsafe service that is motivated by profit, not people!

It's quite striking isn’t it?

Looking forward to the answer to this from the OP or Mishy.

Apparently 'gender diverse kids' aren't in any way unwell, but they need 'specialist healthcare'. This consists of blocking their normal hormone production during puberty and the administration of the hormones of the opposite sex, meaning that they will end up being infertile. And in order to obtain this 'healthcare' (if you can call it that) they need access to doctors like the Webberleys - Helen with her criminal conviction for flouting regulations which are in place to protect patients and her gastroenterologist husband who was eventually struck off for his part in their money-making scheme.

Nobody has ever explained what they are trying to achieve by interfering with children's hormones in this way, or why they believe this is necessary for these children.

So come on, OP and Mishy, explain why it is that you believe these children should be sterilised.

Legally under 18s are children. Yet the nhs prescribed HRT to under 18s.
So are you saying that the staff in the NHS should be prosecuted?

The NHS work in multidisciplinary teams, so it seems unlikely that a single clinician will ever be held criminally responsible.

The NHS may well be held civilly responsible eventually, seeing as they were prescribing with no evidence base without being the patients being part of a clinical trial.

Still far less reckless than both Drs Webberly.

From an article about one of the investigations into Helen Webberley's activities:

She told the BBC she had given cross-sex hormone treatment to one 12-year-old and three 15-year-olds, despite NHS guidelines that they be given at about 16 or over.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-41213534

Is there any evidence that NHS employees have given opposite sex hormones to under-16s? If so, I would expect them to be investigated in the same way as Webberley was.

And opposite sex hormones are not HRT. They are not a replacement for something which normally occurs naturally in the body of someone of that sex. They introduce unnatural levels of opposite sex hormones into the body with all the possible negative health effects that this can cause.

The commissioning guidelines for prescribing HRT in GIDS is "around 16", which was interpreted as minimum 15 years 9 months old. I don't any under 16s were prescribed HRT.
There's a lot of misunderstanding in this thread though. GIDS guidelines do not need to be followed by private GPs