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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Eyeroll time. SWR launch the first intersex inclusive train

104 replies

Needmoresleep · 28/03/2023 23:49

And it will take you all the way to Bournemouth.

(My friends DiL has a DSD. Her particular chromosome disorder comes with various health problems including heart. It seems very wrong to trivialise illness/disability.)

https://www.dorsetecho.co.uk/news/23415847.south-western-railway-launches-first-intersex-inclusive-train/

Intersex inclusive train launched in Dorset

A Train operator that serves Dorset has launched the UK's first-ever Intersex-Inclusive Pride train to show support for LGBTQ+ colleagues and…

https://www.dorsetecho.co.uk/news/23415847.south-western-railway-launches-first-intersex-inclusive-train

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WomanXXWorldsOriginsofMothersofAllNations · 29/03/2023 11:04

But surely

the sexual orientation, gender identity, gender expression and sex characteristics (SOGIESC) human rights framework

is every human being on the planet past present and future.

FrancescaContini · 29/03/2023 11:07

GCMM · 29/03/2023 10:59

What nonsense - DSDs have nothing to do with trans or trains.

Or transtrains, in fact

MakiSushi · 29/03/2023 11:29

Well that's a load of wank.

Just when I thought I'd seen all ridiculous virtue signalling there is out there then this comes along!

I hope they get taken to task on this - some fools, somewhere, have approved this BS.

Misstache · 29/03/2023 11:31

Trans people love to pretend to be “intersex” under the guise of “you don’t know my chromosomes!” Didn’t the person who attacked KJK say they were a non binary Trans intersex person or something. And Lily Madigan claimed to be “intersex” at some point.

RosaBonheur · 29/03/2023 11:39

Misstache · 29/03/2023 11:31

Trans people love to pretend to be “intersex” under the guise of “you don’t know my chromosomes!” Didn’t the person who attacked KJK say they were a non binary Trans intersex person or something. And Lily Madigan claimed to be “intersex” at some point.

Yes, this. Didn't want to say anything which might get me deleted or banned. Basically trans activists are determined to drag "intersex people" under the trans umbrella to give legitimacy to the idea that sex isn't binary. (Obviously it is, which is precisely why having a severe DSD is so very difficult to live with even if you are otherwise healthy.) Since some people with DSDs started speaking out and saying they didn't want to be included in all the rainbow flag/alphabet soup stuff, or for their medical conditions to be weaponised to promote gender ideology, a lot of trans identifying people have suddenly started claiming to be "intersex" themselves. I don't believe a word of it.

WhatATimeToBeAlive · 29/03/2023 11:44

Boiledbeetle · 29/03/2023 02:21

You decide

What? Isn't that just an "OK" gesture? Never heard of that one.

happysingleversary · 29/03/2023 12:28

Could intersex people not use trains before?

Signalbox · 29/03/2023 12:34

Boiledbeetle · 29/03/2023 02:21

You decide

OMG does this mean SWR are aligned with white supremacists now?

RosaBonheur · 29/03/2023 12:37

happysingleversary · 29/03/2023 12:28

Could intersex people not use trains before?

No, it used to be impossible to buy a ticket without providing proof of your genetic karyotype and a picture of your genitalia. Thankfully SWR have now tackled this important issue and brought an end to this decades long injustice against "intersex people".

funnelfan · 29/03/2023 12:38

WhatATimeToBeAlive · 29/03/2023 11:44

What? Isn't that just an "OK" gesture? Never heard of that one.

It’s an American thing that spreading. A previously innocuous gesture gets co-opted by unpleasant people, given a new meaning and the general population stop using it because they don’t want to be associated with the unpleasantness. Similar to how the use of the Union Jack dropped considerably in the U.K. after it was adopted and weaponised by various “National” parties in the 70s and 80s.

happysingleversary · 29/03/2023 12:44

RosaBonheur · 29/03/2023 12:37

No, it used to be impossible to buy a ticket without providing proof of your genetic karyotype and a picture of your genitalia. Thankfully SWR have now tackled this important issue and brought an end to this decades long injustice against "intersex people".

Thank goodness!

funnelfan · 29/03/2023 12:44

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I’ve had PCOS all my life. I am certainly not “intersex”, I’ve always understood it to be a disorder of the endocrine system.

Given the full name of the condition is Polycystic OVARIAN Syndrome, the name is a bit of a give away that it only affects women.

RosaBonheur · 29/03/2023 12:54

funnelfan · 29/03/2023 12:44

I’ve had PCOS all my life. I am certainly not “intersex”, I’ve always understood it to be a disorder of the endocrine system.

Given the full name of the condition is Polycystic OVARIAN Syndrome, the name is a bit of a give away that it only affects women.

JFC if you have ovaries you are obviously female.

These people.

IamAporcupine · 29/03/2023 14:13

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I came accross this organisation recently. It is truly depressing.

From their Q&A page:
What is the definition of intersex?
The I in LGBTQIA+ stands for “intersex.”
🙄

Bergamotte · 29/03/2023 14:17

From their Q&A page:
What is the definition of intersex?
The I in LGBTQIA+ stands for “intersex.”

That is not a definition! Or even at all helpful in understanding what the word might mean.

IcakethereforeIam · 29/03/2023 14:21

That's just the first letter? That's not a definition!

DoctorDaisy · 29/03/2023 14:35

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IamAporcupine · 29/03/2023 14:45

Bergamotte · 29/03/2023 14:17

From their Q&A page:
What is the definition of intersex?
The I in LGBTQIA+ stands for “intersex.”

That is not a definition! Or even at all helpful in understanding what the word might mean.

Tbf, there is a 'proper' definition after that, but I still think that it's extremely telling that the first line refers to the LGBT alphabet. As if that is the most important aspect - the sense of belonging.

"Intersex is an umbrella term for differences in sex traits or reproductive anatomy. Intersex people are born with these differences or develop them in childhood. There are many possible differences in genitalia, hormones, internal anatomy, or chromosomes, compared to the usual two ways that human bodies develop."

The last sentence is of course not correct either, and feeds into the 'sex is not binary' nonsense.

DoctorDaisy · 29/03/2023 15:07

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 29/03/2023 15:13

"Interact are now run almost exclusively by trans activists claiming to be intersex - if you look at their social media, they mention trans in almost every post, but have almost never poster about CAIS, PAIS, CAH, Klinefelters, Turner, Gonadal dysgenesis, 5ard etc., - & they talk more about PCOS than any DSD"

Surely it's a typo? They meant trains and now have been rewarded with a special train all of their own? No?

IcakethereforeIam · 29/03/2023 15:19

I've cracked it (or perhaps I'm just cracked)! What do you get if you put an 'i' in trans......?

I bet that was some of the thinking behind it.

funnelfan · 29/03/2023 15:36

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The only Interact group I’m aware of is the junior branch of Rotary, it’s the name for their youth organisation. I was in one group many moons ago.

SinnerBoy · 29/03/2023 15:39

Signalbox · Today 12:34

°OMG does this mean SWR are aligned with white supremacists now?^

Well, have you heard or read of them denouncing Nazis? No. Evidently, they are all Nazis, it stands to reason.

KatMcBundleFace · 29/03/2023 16:15

Women with PCOS already feel bad enough, without being told they are somehow not a woman any more. I'm in lots of PCOS Facebook groups and there's lots of low self esteem. I was diagnosed with PCOS in my 20s, but in my 40s they could see no sign of it. 🤷‍♀️

DSDs are lifelong medical conditions (all on the binary too). Women with PCOS are women. Women with DSDs are women.

Fuck off and leave us alone.

Laladybird · 29/03/2023 16:48

Tonnes of companies display rainbow flags. They cost next to nothing and tick a corporate responsibility box.

More importantly there's no need to look at supply chains, pay equality, investment policy, carbon footprint, customer satisfaction, disabled access. What's not to like about cheap, no-effort virtue signalling?

But now that almost every corporate has ticked the rainbow lanyard box virtual signalling inflation starts to kick in. SWR would not get free coverage for a common or garden rainbow flag anymore. Paying some activist a few thousand pounds for a gimmick is cheap publicity.

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