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We just wanted to talk, to read a poem, and we were beaten up: Let Women Speak

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Whaeanui · 27/03/2023 17:17

This may have been shared but since these brave wahine didn’t get to speak at the event, I think a thread dedicated to them speaking is the least we could do. The Platform allowed women to call up and speak. I’m only 30 minutes in, the fourth woman is so tearful it’s quite a hard listen. She is clearly traumatised. Please listen, please leave a comment if you can. I’m so heartbroken about it. I know some of these women who were attending. Whanau ( family ) and friends attended. They’re all completely in shock. Angry, broken, feeling completely overwhelmed. They’ve been called far right, Nazis, when a large portion are long time Maori rights activists, Labour supporters, and many are older women. Some have nothing to do with any feminist groups, they just wanted to be heard. Read a poem. Talk about their lives. Their fears.

Let Women Speak - Highlights - Sean Plunket hosts open line talk back

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Vebrithien · 27/03/2023 19:09

That was such a tough watch.

Nevertheless.

THESE WOMEN SPOKE

Regardless of race, culture or creed, thank you.

We hear you. We believe you. We stand with you!

Whaeanui · 27/03/2023 19:11

Thank you all for listening, so important women speak to each other however we can across the world about this war against women we are in.

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Boiledbeetle · 27/03/2023 19:17

This is heartbreaking listening.

LadyMary50 · 27/03/2023 19:25

Thank you for sharing,I’m about 20mins in and my heart is breaking for those brave women.I do think the whole trans activist thing has now progressed to anti-women,anti-lesbian hate.Their are so many groups that previously had nothing in common that are now joining the hate campaign against women.It is truly frightening.

chilling19 · 27/03/2023 19:26

That was a tough listen. Thank you for sharing it. It is heartening to hear from women who are angry and/or upset. ❤️

chilling19 · 27/03/2023 19:29

Oops posted too soon - it is heartening because they were brave enough to come onto the show and share their experiences, despite being angry/upset.

SquidwardBound · 27/03/2023 19:37

they want tomato soup to become a symbol of the trans movement

maybe it should be.

because throwing soup over someone else as a form of aggression is probably literally assault in many western democracies. You know, an offence you can be prosecuted for.

it makes perfect sense to make an actual act of violence the symbol of the movement.

nilsmousehammer · 27/03/2023 19:55

This is hard listening, I've been at it for a long time now. Some very distressed women, and it is awful to hear them asking why their police abandoned them and left them to whatever the mob felt like rather than look bad intervening with a 'sensitive group'. And why women were set up to be exposed to this.

Also good to hear it being openly stated that LGBT+Whatever is now the label internationally for a corporate political movement that has fuck all to do with representing homosexual people.

And yes to making an act of violence against a woman the symbol of the movement: yes. Absolutely. Crack on with that.

That and all the video footage and people's horrified accounts have really built the case as to why women do not want any male associated with this violent political movement in a space where they are vulnerable.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 27/03/2023 19:56

listening to Tanya describing being kicked and punched as she tried to get out

such violent men

LassoOfTruth · 27/03/2023 19:59

I found this today too and have been moved by the courage of the amazing women who attended. My heart was in my mouth watching KJK’s livestream. Glad there’s at least one platform which seems to genuinely want to support free speech and centre the women who were so aggressively denied their chance to speak. Sickening some of the news coverage of the aftermath though - I watched one “reporting” on some kind of celebratory rainbow thug rally which took place afterwards, their victory parade I guess. These creeps think they’re untouchable but I cling to the hope that the events in NZ can’t be ignored or played down, that hopefully it’s all sunlight on the shadiest types involved in this so-called trans-activism. That the world will see it’s just plain old misogyny albeit with eyeshadow on.

Faffertea · 27/03/2023 20:12

Thank you for sharing @Whaeanui

We saw the violence. We hear your voices. We feel your trauma.

We stand in solidarity with you our NZ sisters.

I hope some of the women in NZ who don’t know where to go next will find their way over to us here at FWR. I really believe this board has been crucial in this fight for women’s rights in the UK.

beastlyslumber · 27/03/2023 20:16

This is heartbreaking listening. God, what a terrifying experience. Cannot get over how brave and brilliant those women are.

Clymene · 27/03/2023 20:16

Thank you for sharing this @Whaeanui. I'm appalled at what has happened to these women but so pleased they're being given a platform to talk.

Boiledbeetle · 27/03/2023 20:27

I don't mean this the way it sounds but God I'm glad I've finished listening to that.

I'm so angry right now!

ArabellaScott · 27/03/2023 20:30

Thank you for posting, OP. I will listen later when kids are in bed.

Flowers to all the women speaking.

Whaeanui · 27/03/2023 20:32

It’s both very sad and completely rage inducing at the same time. As all this utter pile of crap is. I wish I was super rich so I could hire the best lawyers for all the women who went, including Posie, who were defamed, assaulted and let down by police.

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EndlessTea · 27/03/2023 20:37

I really detest sadistic bullies, but I despise them more when they are cowards who get others to do their dirty work for them.

I keep thinking of the Sméagol/Gollum bloke Shane Lal gloating in the rotunda, so happy that he’d caused fear and pain in women.

All his BS about being “so afraid”. He knew full well he was flexing his male dominance.

Slothtoes · 27/03/2023 20:41

This is all really important to document and thank you for sharing this Flowers
Thank you to all the women speaking. Flowers

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 27/03/2023 20:45

I’m only halfway through but I’m so glad to be listening.

Love the Wellington women who were calling the police based on what they saw on the Auckland livestream.

(not wanting to be alarmist but some of the women seem to have some PTSDish symptoms - I hope they are able to access support and get past those feelings - just being in an uncontrolled benign/friendly crowd can be traumatic, let alone a hostile crowd)

BreadInCaptivity · 27/03/2023 20:45

A harrowing but necessary listen.

Thank you for posting OP.

Boiledbeetle · 27/03/2023 20:47

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 27/03/2023 20:45

I’m only halfway through but I’m so glad to be listening.

Love the Wellington women who were calling the police based on what they saw on the Auckland livestream.

(not wanting to be alarmist but some of the women seem to have some PTSDish symptoms - I hope they are able to access support and get past those feelings - just being in an uncontrolled benign/friendly crowd can be traumatic, let alone a hostile crowd)

They were definitely reliving the fear of the moment as they told their stories.

WinterTrees · 27/03/2023 20:49

The call from Mel, 20 minutes in, will stand as a powerful historic testimony of the wrongs done to women by this violent and dishonest men's rights movement. In plain sight, under the passive gaze of government, media and law enforcement agencies.

It's utterly shocking now. I only hope that in future years it will be known as a day of abject shame, like Black Friday in November 1910, when women campaigning for suffrage in London were beaten and sexually assaulted by police and male onlookers. (I don't want to even think about the scenario Sean Plunket and subsequent callers put forward, in which this is just the start of women's silencing and events like this will be rewritten with women's perspectives completely erased.)

Thanks for sharing the link OP. What impressive and inspiring women.

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 27/03/2023 20:53

Boiledbeetle · 27/03/2023 20:47

They were definitely reliving the fear of the moment as they told their stories.

Hopefully the act of sharing their stories will be helpful debrief sort of thing?

Makes you wonder about women who went along just to listen to KJK and the NZ women speak who are new to these events and who might not be connected up with any tervern sisters in real life. Must be difficult enough to process this stuff when you were half expecting something to happen…

flyingbuttress43 · 27/03/2023 21:04

I've just finished listening to all three parts. My God, what is happening to that beautiful country? I've visited many times and worked there. You only have to have watched the videos and heard the testimonies to know exactly why women don't want men/transgender women in their spaces, their refuges, their sports. They were violence personified.

Also, as a now-retired journalist and communications specialist, I feel shame that people I shared my profession with could be so captured by this cult. If I had gone on air with any of those mainstream media reports - no background research, inciting news pieces, defamatory statements - the essence of Wikipaedia light - I would have been sacked and rightly so. Shame on them.

I said on another thread - where are the proper investigative journalists to get to the bottom of this cult? For Christ's sake, follow the money, follow the power. Bloody do something.

colouringindoors · 27/03/2023 21:13

Oh great, so glad this has been posted. I listened to all 3 parts (3 hours) this afternoon. Very powerful and brilliant that The Platform enabled all these women to have their voices heard and tell their stories. Chilling.

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