Do you think porn is going to get even more violent and men’s demand for so called ’kinky’ sex even stronger when hopefully women are getting braver to stay single?

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While women started to get more educated, be more at the work force and having little bit more say in who and when or if they date, porn was pushed more and more to the mainstream and violent sex with that.

There has to be a correlation.

And now there has been quite a few articles and studies of women choosing to remain single (they don’t usually say, but I’m guessing some women at least are also opting out of having sex with men) and single and childfree women being happiest demographic.

Do you think that sexual behaviour, weather it’s porn / men using prostitutes / so called kinky community or ’sex positivity’ movement that is constantly eroding women’s boundaries, will get even more violent and degrading towards women?

How informative that 'rough sex' does not mean heterosexual sex where the woman slaps or strangles the man. It doesn't even mean 'rough sex' where both participants (or all) treat each other roughly. It's about presumed female masochism and desire to be humiliated.

I read quite a bit about the effect of porn on young men. Some go to doctors for Viagra, because they cannot maintain an erection in real sex with a woman, but only while watching porn, and even then they need to see more and more extreme porn to get aroused. The medical jury is still out on how common this is, but some researchers express concerns and the NoFap sites have millions of members.

One researcher wondered if putting together only the extreme kinds of signals for arousal in one package might not be rather harmful, given that no real woman can possess all of those at the same time. It's a little like the possible ways concentrated corn syrup messes with our hunger centres so that the signal of being sated is not received. In other words, online porn is artificial, something that can never exist in real interactions where there are elbows and real human beings with their own concerns.

Porn is acting, and many women who act in porn find it soul-numbing and awful work, not something they enjoy. I have read that the average career length in that field is a few years.

That deep fake stuff is utterly grim. Not that the rest of it isn't. I sometimes think it will get to the point where we can no longer reproduce because the men have all wanked themselves to the point of erectile dysfunction before they realise how damaging this stuff is. And on my worst days I think that might be no bad thing. 😂

The insatiable demand for 50 shades came from Women.

I agree with this. I think it's much more likely to be this than the education of women.

50 shades is a book
People read it and use their imagination. No real people were involved or harmed in the story line.

Honestly. It's a bit like saying that mem who read Dean Koontz want to be brutally murdered.

And was turned into a porno that millions of women watched.

I think we are too far gone to say it is a 'men only' problem. Perhaps it was once.
I don't think it's just a 'certain type' of porn problem either. Because where would you draw the line?

But the more extreme porn gets the more young women are likely to do things like only fans - eg. I'm 'only' doing solo stuff, I'm'only' doing live with a real boyfriend. It all suddenly seems much more tame.

The film was not a porn film. It was actors. People watch films about outlandish things all the time without it having a bearing on reality.

Or do you believe watching Mission Impossible could be responsible for responsible for a spate of men dying trying to fly helicopters through a tunnel?

Never read the FSoG book or saw the film. I'd seen 9 1/2 Weeks years back and just ended up irritated with the Micky Rourke character - I remember a scene where he was thrashing the floor with his belt and demanding that Kim Basinger crawl around on all fours or something similar.

Never bothered with stuff involving er...kink ever since. It just struck me as ridiculous and I prefer stuff like the Blues Brothers if I'm going to go ridiculous.

I grew up with the ladies undies section of the Argos/Bhs catalog as my primary source of erotic fantasy, but as I got older cane into contact with peers for whom it was porn, and they absolutely did things that I found mystifying, things that are now probably quite vanilla, but for me had no obvious connection with sexual pleasure. Didn’t understand it then, don’t understand it now.

Looking at the bigger picture, porn or no porn there has always been an adversarial aspect to men’s approach to women when it comes to sex which does take much to tip over into misogyny and degradation. Porn just provides a template for that and normalises it.

*does not take much

Looking at the bigger picture, porn or no porn there has always been an adversarial aspect to men’s approach to women when it comes to sex which does take much to tip over into misogyny and degradation. Porn just provides a template for that and normalises it
I think this is very true!
It's not men's fault that they are men, but I think men can become sexually deviant much more easily than women can.... Broadly speaking.
As a society we need effective ways to stop then from falling into these traps, and they must be ways which do not involve sacrificing the well-being of women 😡
(Not that I am suggesting that you were suggesting that women should be sacrificed to men @Palmfrond )

I suspect women are being told violent sex is normal, that's why. It isn't. Sex is to give pleasure in order to make pair bonds. Porn of any kind is abusive of women, if women are watching it they have imbibed the notion that women should like violent sex. They don't.

I think there will always be escalation. It's anyone's guess where that will end up in 5, 10, 50, 100 years...

100 years ago, swimming costumes were virtually full body, 1940s it was down to half, 1980 or so bikinis... now practically naked.

Same with acceptance of things like homosexuality. 40 years ago, not so hot, literally 10 years ago completely fine, and now trans is the norm.

Porn is the same... who knows where it will end up!

@User135644

Let me guess: you are a porn-loving man...

Take your agenda somewhere else.