The strange reaction to the death of a child rapist drag queen

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An article by James Esses on the funeral of Darren Moore -a drag queen who was murdered in Cardiff city centre.
Although Moore had a prior history of convictions for child sexual abuse the Council closed off roads in central Cardiff for the funeral and news coverage has been very positive about him.

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I suppose that you have a point @Lockheart although I can't find much energy to argue on behalf of a child rapist.

Local gossip from his estate is 3 boys. Youngest 9. Obviously I’m aware this is not a credible source

The details are clearly difficult to find because of his age at the time of the crimes.

When I was young a religious teacher was convicted of being a paedophile, everyone said he couldn’t possibly have done what he was accused of because he was such a good teacher and religious man. Now it is well known that teachers and religious men are often paedos that isn’t said any more. Now Drag Queens are life and soul of the “community” and are untouchable even in death. Same shit, different day.

I'm not arguing on his behalf, I am just a bit disappointed in the Spectator as usually I find them quite good. In an article which makes much of "media outlets... succumbing to false, ideological language or failing to cover cases accurately, simply because of the self-selected ‘gender identity’ of an individual. Surely, this flies in the face of journalistic ethics?" I find the use of "false language" in order to exaggerate Moore's crimes rather jarring. I'd rather stick to the facts and not engage in hyperbole.

That certainly makes more sense in relation to the barrister’s comment re: ‘young children’.

Didn't you know, changing your name these days also means you are instantly absolved of all past deeds!

Badbudgeter · Today 07:24
Its like there is a quasi religious cleansing that occurs. You enter as your cis caterpillar self and emerge as your beautiful butterfly true self, free of the sins of the past.

You have put that so well.

I live locally. At the time of his funeral very few people knew of his past. He was very well known and much loved. The big funeral would not have happened if people had known the truth about him.
There is no cognitive dissonance. Simply a man who kept his past very well hidden.

I attended his funeral and I still don't know the truth.
I do know an older gay men convicted of being sex offender for having consensual sex with a 17 year old when he was 18 years old when that was illegal. I do not consider him a sex offender.

He may have still been a child himself but he raped younger children. That makes him a child rapist.

And I know a man who was twice convicted of raping children when he was a child himself he was 12 the first time, 15 the second.

He was a child rapist then and he was a child rapist when he raped a 6 year old years later.

If you rape a child you are a child rapist.

No ifs no buts.

@Lockheart Perhaps the wording is entirely deliberate?

Lockheart · Today 09:30

^Clymene · Today 09:22*
Here are the facts we know:
^He was 15 when he was convicted. What we also know is that a child went to the police and stood up in court to secure that conviction. Sewell spent 3 years in a young offender's institute for the crime*.

He then lied about being on the sexual offenders register to secure a job teaching gymnastics to children.

His funeral was paid for in large part through a fundraiser which Sab Samuel, who set up Drag Queen Story Hour, heavily promoted on his socials.

Yes, this is broadly my understanding too. He was 15 when he was convicted for four sexual assaults on a boy who I understand was 14 at the time

I am not sure "child rapist" is perhaps the best way to describe him. Although he was a convicted sex offender, he was only a year older than his victim and still under the age of consent himself at the time. To my knowledge he didn't offend again in that manner, although he did breach his order in his later 20s. I am not personally convinced that he was a paedophile.

This has some more information: transcrimeuk.com/2017/10/30/darren-sewell/

It would be interesting to know what the younger child who was raped said had happened as a way of having more insight into Sewell’s frame of mind.

His breaking of the order and teaching may have been because he had no other skill besides being a gymnast and dancer to get regular work with, rather than specifically because he wanted access to children for sexual purposes. It seems the police could not find evidence of harm. It is puzzling though that the articles about him praise him but without discussion of all these other facts and factors which are very important to know about.

Neverplayleapfrogwithmrpipes · Today 09:48
I have gathered from posts written by people who went to school with him that the victim was much younger than 14

Then that is very different from if he was fifteen and the other boy was fourteen. Also the courts obviously saw it wasn’t in any way consensual.

I take back the element of sympathy in my last post. It was misplaced.

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His breaking of the order and teaching may have been because he had no other skill besides being a gymnast and dancer to get regular work with

Come on now, this is pure bollocks. There are loads of jobs he could’ve done with no qualifications that didn’t bring him into regular contact with kids (which he was forbidden to to by court order).

Bar in a nightclub, warehouse work, factory work, anything.

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · Today 11:47
His breaking of the order and teaching may have been because he had no other skill besides being a gymnast and dancer to get regular work with

Come on now, this is pure bollocks. There are loads of jobs he could’ve done with no qualifications that didn’t bring him into regular contact with kids (which he was forbidden to to by court order).

Bar in a nightclub, warehouse work, factory work, anything

You are right. As I said I take back my sympathy.

I had thought it might have been a ‘Romeo and Juliet’ case where he was 15 and the younger 14 year old child’s parents had brought the case.

But someone has said the victim was much younger.

That makes it clearly not a misguided relationship on his part but an intentional act of rape and control on someone defenceless and I think the court wouldn’t have convicted him of rape without good reason.

The thing about trying to understand and find compassion for the abuser, is that it takes the focus and compassion away from the wreckage of human lives that an abuser leaves behind them.

We are being pushed to do this with women. Yes a male may leave women with the lifetime mental and physical injuries of rape in his wake but if we only understood how hard it all is for him, explained it, cared about his view, empathised with the pressures upon him, pitied him, engaged with the complexity of him and explored what he wants to share of his inner self and experience...

It's the thing Chumplady talks about in talking to women dealing with cheating partners: the trap women fall into of being told and believing if they just understood him better, if they just better explored his very special inner experience.... she'd forgive him for mistreating her so badly. She rarely notices he has none of this energy to waste on her, her inner experience is irrelevant, he is the special partner.

It's also the thing we see in disasters where we're told 'but he's a good father' (who tried to strangle the kids' mother in front of them) or 'he was a lovely man' (until he brutally murdered his wife and kids before committing suicide). No. They are not lovely men. They are not very special people who need understanding. That part of my female socialisation is there and I have the buttons to be pressed, but I'm not falling for it. The only interest I have is in the victim wreckage left in the wake of an abuser. Who are they as people. What is their inner experience and needs now.

Particularly as this 'special perpetrator' narrative is now beginning to be pushed in the normalisation of 'sometimes male people make mistakes and sexually abuse children but....'

There's no but. There is no way to make this less vile, less shameful, less uncomfortable.

I would imagine the details of the original conviction are sealed due to the Sewell being a youth offender, so we’ll never know any details unless a victim speaks to the press.

it’s entirely possible that he was convicted of rape against a teenage victim but there were additional younger victims involved too - I have no idea how the courts would’ve dealt with victim/witness testimony from under tens in 1999.
It might’ve been a pragmatic approach from CPS to get a solid conviction followed by supervision, which would be better than no conviction at all.

One thing I do know for sure is that teaching a kids gym class was not the one and only job available to this man in the entire Cardiff/Newport area in the late 2000s/early 2010s!

The whole reporting around the funeral has been really odd. I was on a local Facebook selling page last night and there was a huge post (diatribe) about this chap. It actually called him, his partner and others the ‘P’ word in full and capitals, highlighting certain activities, telling local police which activities/ where to look with a view to prosecution. It was wild! It has been taken down now but it was mind blowing.

So it seems the Spectator is correct in that he abused multiple children. I presume they actually did fact check.

Thanks, do you have a link for that please? I haven't seen anything but the conviction re a single victim.

If there are more perps involved than just Sewell I hope the local police are investigating them thoroughly (surely they already need to follow any leads re: Sewell as his death could be connected? I don’t condone vigilante violence but it is a thing that exists so it must be an avenue of inquiry?)

That said, most people don’t usually resort to blurting out loads of allegations against named people online unless they’re already disillusioned with the proper channels.

Of the many motivations that cause people to go under the trans umbrella there is one I call Tabula Rasa Trans, where men who have been terrible people convince others that by performing femininity they have actually become a woman and:

• their past behaviour was caused by trauma over their gender identity
• by declaring themselves a woman they have actually become a new person, completely divorced from the person who engaged in bad behaviour
• by performing femininity they become incapable of male-pattern behaviour and pose the same statistical risk as a female, not a male.

It seems unhinged, but people actually go along with this; the same people who would actually accept Tyson Fury having a female body if he suppressed his testosterone for a few months and wanted to compete in women's boxing.

Can you provide evidence is abused just one? It seems there are several media reports who are using children - plural. Why are you presuming they are wrong?

IIRC, when the details were originally reported, the victim was said to be under the age of 14.