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invalide · 2023-03-09T13:09:37+00:00

The anti-LGBTQ political climate you are a part of has contributed to [[https://trackbill.com/bill/tennessee-house-bill-878-marriage-as-introduced-states-that-a-person-is-not-required-to-solemnize-a-marriage-if-the-person-has-an-objection-to-solemnizing-the-marriage-based-on-the-persons-conscience-or-religious-beliefs-amends-tca-title-4-title-29-and-title-36/2345964/ this]] bill passing. It was never going to stop at trans people. I'm not some liberal for whom marriage equality is the be-all end-all metric of 'progress' or 'freedom', but it's indisputable we're looking at a backsliding of what limited recent progress has been made.

ArabellaScott · 09/03/2023 19:07

IcakethereforeIam · 09/03/2023 17:16

Hello OP 👋 I understand your concern but I think you're blaming the wrong people. Read the pp's replies with an open mind. Then take that pointy finger and look in a mirror.

I wish our visitors would realised when they stare into MN FWR, MN FWR stares back and does not blink.

Angry How Dare You GIF by Paddington Bear

Practising.

QueenHippolyta · 09/03/2023 19:21

This Lesbian wants nothing to do with the TQIA rubbish. It created the backlash we all expected.
But worse the T drove young people to mutilate their bodies and harm their health. It's evil and unforgivable

I loathe the T

PerkingFaintly · 09/03/2023 19:36

Arabella, I do not for one instant believe that your hard stare needs practice.

Ourladycheesusedatum · 09/03/2023 19:46

GailBlancheViola · 09/03/2023 14:00

And yet we've been repeatedly told there are only 6 of us, no-one takes any notice of us, the general public are not on our side, politicians are not on our side, nobody is listening to us and yet, amazingly, we wield such power that we are able to exert influence on a Bill passed in a State in America.

Incredible.

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Err like schrodingers feminist? Summat like that

mrshoho · 09/03/2023 19:53

Datun · 09/03/2023 13:16

Many women on here predicted, and were dreading, the LGB backlash as a result of trans ideology. You're blaming the wrong people.

Transactivists deliberately force teamed with homosexual rights, in order to authenticate their goals.

It's all documented in the Denton report.

What did you think women meant when they said trans ideology is regressive??

Transactivists don't even believe in homosexuality. Take it up with them.

Yes perfectly said.

JanesLittleGirl · 09/03/2023 22:46

So TERF island fucked the great state of Tennessee. Go us! I would like to see @invalide's reply to any of the responses on this thread but I fear that it was yet another "fire and forget" post.

nilsmousehammer · 09/03/2023 22:58

Datun · 09/03/2023 13:16

Many women on here predicted, and were dreading, the LGB backlash as a result of trans ideology. You're blaming the wrong people.

Transactivists deliberately force teamed with homosexual rights, in order to authenticate their goals.

It's all documented in the Denton report.

What did you think women meant when they said trans ideology is regressive??

Transactivists don't even believe in homosexuality. Take it up with them.

Thread solved in one post. Epic. This is how the six of us and our socks control the USA. <evil cackle>

Incidentally OP, having seen the newly released Stonewall graphic today on what I'm allowed to think a lesbian is, and having seen that I'm not actually mentioned on it at all as a homosexual female as far as I can see and about 99% of it describes it as a trans identity available to anyone of either sex, apparently I'm not L any more. I've been bounced entirely from the LGBT+ definition.

So it's a bit rich really expecting me to be interested in what is happening to the rights of a group who have made it clear I'm nothing to do with them. Particularly when it's the consequences of their own actions that they're reaping.

ItsShiela · 10/03/2023 04:59

You are gaslighting here. So because some on the right wing know what a woman is, all feminists are right wing? Hitler loved dogs. If you love dogs, are you aligned with the right wing? Putin eats cake. If you eat cake, do you support Putin's war? Try to at least have a modicum of intelligence above 9 year old to not make false equivalence arguments. To say nothing of the fact you are attacking women who are increasingly being assaulted by trans activists and the victims of hate speech by the violent, hateful and bigoted anti-woman group you support.

ItsShiela · 10/03/2023 05:01

invalide · 09/03/2023 13:37

The same politicians who count themselves part of your political movement are the ones bringing about these laws. The debate whipped up around trans people's existence has simply been a foot in the door, an acceptable first target to shift the mainstream discourse further right.

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The debate is about WOMENS existence, and our human rights. Not about trans. You are deeply, deeply ignorant and misinformed.

nilsmousehammer · 10/03/2023 06:58

How are you doing for Twitter screenshots OP? Got what you needed yet, or can we help you out a little more?

Boiledbeetle · 10/03/2023 09:00

So..let me get this right..something happened on another continent, mainly due to the backlash that had been caused by the T+ forcing themselves onto the LGB, despite many women and homosexual people saying no thank you. The T element brings with it so much homophobic rhetoric that people sick to the back teeth of having to address grown men with cocks claiming womanhood and lesbianhood as miss,

But we here are to blame.

ODFOD.

QuinkWashable · 10/03/2023 09:33

So what you're saying is, that it's women's fault that because we didn't give the QT everything we had, LGB people are losing their rights?

That sounds like blackmail to me.

Datun · 10/03/2023 10:08

Boiledbeetle · 10/03/2023 09:00

So..let me get this right..something happened on another continent, mainly due to the backlash that had been caused by the T+ forcing themselves onto the LGB, despite many women and homosexual people saying no thank you. The T element brings with it so much homophobic rhetoric that people sick to the back teeth of having to address grown men with cocks claiming womanhood and lesbianhood as miss,

But we here are to blame.

ODFOD.

Well quite.

When you claim to represent the LGBT community, and you're telling people that men are lesbians, it's a bit rich to be shocked when they get pissed off.

The fucking hypocrisy stinks.

How many times did they threaten Get the L Out, or the LGB Alliance? It's not just forced teaming, it's forced teaming with threats of violence if they don't comply.

Plus, that's not even what the link says. The OP is inventing a specific backlash, that's not represented by the link, in order to have a go at the very people they're claiming to represent.

Righthandcider · 10/03/2023 10:16

Boiledbeetle · 10/03/2023 09:00

So..let me get this right..something happened on another continent, mainly due to the backlash that had been caused by the T+ forcing themselves onto the LGB, despite many women and homosexual people saying no thank you. The T element brings with it so much homophobic rhetoric that people sick to the back teeth of having to address grown men with cocks claiming womanhood and lesbianhood as miss,

But we here are to blame.

ODFOD.

grown men with cocks

Saying it how it is Boiled!

Boiledbeetle · 10/03/2023 10:20

never one to mince my words.

mangle them yes, mince them no.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/03/2023 10:35

This thread is the equivalent of the bigger older brother holding his little sister's hand and slamming it against her face, saying 'Stop hitting yourself"

Take it up with "invalide", then.

RethinkingLife · 10/03/2023 10:40

Datun · 09/03/2023 13:16

Many women on here predicted, and were dreading, the LGB backlash as a result of trans ideology. You're blaming the wrong people.

Transactivists deliberately force teamed with homosexual rights, in order to authenticate their goals.

It's all documented in the Denton report.

What did you think women meant when they said trans ideology is regressive??

Transactivists don't even believe in homosexuality. Take it up with them.

It's time for the regular scolding of women who refuse to have their rights dissolved.

Rules of misogyny.

Women are responsible for what men do.
Women saying no to men is a hate crime.
Women speaking for themselves are exclusionary and selfish.
Women’s opinions are violence against men, thus male violence against women is justified.
Women and Feminism must be useful to men or they are worthless.
Women who go around being female AT men by menstruating and breastfeeding babies deserve punishment.
Women should always be grateful to men for everything.
Men are whatever men say they are and women are whatever men say they are.
Men always know the “real reasons” for everything women do and say.

10. The worst thing about male violence is that it makes men look bad. 11. Whatever women suffer from, it is worse when it happens to men. 12. Women’s ability to recognize male behavior patterns is misandry. 13. Angry women are crazy. Angry men have trouble expressing themselves. 14. Women have all the rights they need: The right to remain silent. 15. Men are the default human. Women are strange subhuman others.

Eyesofdisarray · 10/03/2023 10:50

Gaslighting
Women-bashing
Anti LGBT??? Where do you get that from OP?? Twisting so much your post could hide behind a corkscrew.
We can't even have IWD to ourselves. Get lost Stonewall

TrouserTownie · 10/03/2023 10:55

Take it up with "invalide", then.

There are sooo many points I would love to take up with @invalide . Why do these plop-and-scuttle posters never engage in proper debate if they are so sure of their righteous position?

Boiledbeetle · 10/03/2023 11:11

Helleofabore · 09/03/2023 14:19

"The same politicians who count themselves part of your political movement are the ones bringing about these laws. The debate whipped up around trans people's existence has simply been a foot in the door, an acceptable first target to shift the mainstream discourse further right."

The same politicians...

Our 'political movement' is one of feminism.

YOU seem to equate the belief that sex cannot be changed as a 'political movement'. Because you don't seem to understand, or even wish to understand, what the feminist perspective actually is.

"The debate whipped up around trans people's existence"

You mean the 'whipping' up with all the protests where angry males intimidate women?

Like the one you attended yourself. The one where you, someone who was likely seen over enthusiastically participating in the protest, the one with signs like 'decapitate terfs' decided to stroll through the group of women listening to the speakers and record their faces with your camera.

You mean.... that kind of 'whipping' up?

Ugh, it's that poster.

Boiledbeetle · 10/03/2023 11:12

MassiveWordSalad · 09/03/2023 14:33

"Mumsnet: Giant-slaying Cross-jurisdictional World-dominating Impact - by parents, for parents"

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Bit wordy. But I like it 👍

Helleofabore · 10/03/2023 11:29

Boiledbeetle · 10/03/2023 11:11

Ugh, it's that poster.

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Yes, but have some sympathy for a male that has been led to believe that women should be wonderfully welcoming and just lovely to you, despite you having admitted that you were over dancing and yelling and intimidating women in the name of righteousness and were then clocked by women just strolling through the crowd of women taking photos of women’s faces.

That you as a male believed that you ‘should’ do this shows supreme misogyny and complete lack of awareness.

That you as a male then complained that those mean women ‘brazenly looked you up and down’ and ‘made you feel unwelcome’ and posted this on a feminist forum… well.

Not much more you can say about that really.

It really speaks for itself.

Boiledbeetle · 10/03/2023 11:30

Yes, but have some sympathy for a male

No.

No debate

nilsmousehammer · 10/03/2023 11:32

Yes. Even when baby kicks mummy vigorously and repeatedly in the shins while screaming that you hate her, mummy is still required to pick up baby and unconditionally meet all needs. At least in baby's mind. Mummy is a need meeting thingy with no other life or purpose.

Helleofabore · 10/03/2023 11:50

Do you think I should have put a sarcasm alert on my post?