Feminist Left Australia are warning women not to attend Standing for Women events with KJK because the tour is funded by CPAC

[IwantToRetire]

I suppose its a sort of backhanded compliment that so many women are putting so much effort into pointing out all the ways KJK is wrong personally & politically.

Just think how much they might have achieved if they had put that energy into doing something pro-active in line with their own politics.

So this is the latest:

" ... When a behaviour is repeated and the tendency appears to be increasing, it seems to be a choice and a strategy rather than a one-off mistake. We don’t think that KJK is a “bad” person, or that women who choose to follow her are “bad”. It is not a question of morality (or jealousy, or trashing), but a question of political strategy: what strategy should we choose, according to our political understanding of oppression and power, and the political outcomes we hope to achieve?

Australian and NZ feminists have spent years campaigning against a transgender ideology that wants to erase women. Feminists have lobbied governments, held meetings and conferences opposing self-ID legislation and fought for the right to women-only spaces.

Local actions have often been poorly supported with mere handfuls of women at street protests. So it is ironic that when a “celebrity” activist comes from overseas, so many women are interested in joining Let Women Speak events, even though these events are sponsored by the right and run by a speaker who has repeatedly expressed right-wing ideas.

KJK says that she will speak to anyone but that the right are the only ones to give her a platform. This is true, but uncritically relying on the right to express these views is a very dangerous strategy. It means sacrificing the struggle for the majority of women’s rights, as well as for all other oppressed groups. ... "

feministleft.wordpress.com/2023/03/06/are-you-thinking-of-going-to-kellie-jay-keens-events-in-australia-or-nz-read-this-first/

Isn’t that rather like ‘cutting off your nose’ ?
they've written about how poor the attendance has been yet acknowledge that KJK will draw hundreds of people and publicity to her events.

Well its pretty much the same criticism each time. KJK does it all wrong. Her politics are wrong. She works with the right. Lots of women turn up.

So do they sit down and think how can we reach out to other women and get them to come and talk to us?

No, they lecture everyone for being dumb enough to be taken in by someone they think is at best a fraud, and at worst an agent for right wing extremists.

And as the lack at attendance has already happened, you would have thought they would have already wondered how what they were doing is going wrong. And try something else.

All a bit desparate.

(Have to admit I partly posted this as a record of the never ending lecturing about KJK, but do wonder if I should have put "allegedly" in the title or whether it is enough that I was quoting someone else. Although of course the worse thing is, a title like this just gets shared on twitter or whatever, and all those who want to think this is accurate will just take it as confirmation that it is. Sigh. Maybe best in future just to ignore them. But they keep popping up on a newsfeed I set up years ago.)

It's not clear how taking sponsorship money from a conservative organisation is going to make the slightest difference to other issues.

When are they going to realise that at this point if you are a woman a real one that is, that should be all that bloody matters right left down the middle if someone organises an event to let women speak what exactly is their problem with that? Or do they have to believe everyone has an ulterior motive with everything they do in life!

I’m planning on going to the Adelaide SFW later this month, but I’ve never really noticed “local actions” so if it’s not obvious that there are actions it’s probably why they “have often been poorly supported with mere handfuls of women at street protests.”

To be honest, if I did now notice local actions that were supported by this lot, I’d probably give it a swerve based on their behavior toward KJK so 🤷🏼‍♀️

This is in danger of almost but not quite making it to get the right number to trigger a Parliamentary debate. Please sign and share if you haven’t yet.
www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4722618-petition-to-update-the-equality-act-thread-2

How pathetic they are.

So they are saying that their own campaigning and events have had little to no impact and aren’t well attended, but DON’T YOU DARE ATTEND KJK’s EVENTS because we don’t like her?

They need to grow the fuck up, and accept that KJK is getting the momentum they can’t, put aside their differences and focus on the end goal of women’s rights and single sex spaces.

They sound like petty kindergarten children who don’t want to play with a toy, but don’t want anyone else to have it either.

FFS - stop the bitching and direct that wasted energy towards actually achieving goals and raising awareness of what fuckery is going on in Australia right now - because most people don’t even know 1% of how much gender ideology has permeated every facet of Australian life!

I am curious as to how you came across this blog post?

If I do a google search, it only shows 1 entry - which is this thread on mumsnet.
How did you find it online?

There doesn't seem to be any other posts on the blog, and there is no indication of who is behind this. Seems likely to be written by a TRA, I find it hilarious the lengths they will go to, to discourage us women.

I am so looking forward to seeing KJK, and I am counting down the days.
It was only last year when I was feeling sad that I may never get to attend one of her events - due to my location. I was over the moon when I found out she was coming to Australia and NZ.

I have been left leaning all my life. I know many people who are left leaning, who don't agree with a lot of the TRAs.

Unfortunately both the far right and far left hate women.

That's not going to stop me attending one of these events.

"She's not a bad person, (definitely a bit common though), and heaven forfend we're implying anything.... but really, until she sits down and lets us do this our way, naicely, with the right people women will be... well. Having a bit of a tricky time in prisons for example. But in the scheme of things, it would be better to do it all properly in the right way. More tea, vicar?"

It's not fully funded by CPAC though, they are paying for the insurance, so if anyone is hurt, their treatment will be provided for and paid for. They are part-funding something which is sensible, given the level of threat. KJ explained this in her live stream.

Women who want to go should go, they should also speak if they can. At least you'll safe in the knowledge that there is insurance cover.

As someone who would once have felt a natural fit with feminist left, all I can say is that with each passing day I realise just how clever and how necessary 'Let Women Speak' is.

"Australian and NZ feminists have spent years campaigning against a transgender ideology that wants to erase women."

In which case I'm sorry to say that "Australian and NZ feminists" don't seem to be very successful. At least, not if the goal is to claw back women's spaces and protect kids from being put on the medical pathway. If the goal is pathetic and pointless virtue signalling, I give the one who wrote the blog 10/10.

Australian and NZ feminists have spent years campaigning against a transgender ideology that wants to erase women. Feminists have lobbied governments, held meetings and conferences opposing self-ID legislation and fought for the right to women-only spaces.

All that effort to no effect. One could be forgiven for thinking that appealing to the left is a waste of time.

Local actions have often been poorly supported with mere handfuls of women at street protests. So it is ironic that when a “celebrity” activist comes from overseas, so many women are interested in joining Let Women Speak events, even though these events are sponsored by the right and run by a speaker who has repeatedly expressed right-wing ideas.

Nobody wanted to come to your events because they knew they would fail the purity test and now you want to shut down a woman who is more effective and then have the ovaries to lecture on political strategy?

Women speaking, any woman with any opinion or political affiliation - how awful!

Conservatives wanting women to be safe and insured for any injury versus people on the left who don't.

Not the best look.

Sounds like they’d get on well with the Brighton feminists.

The feminist left sound just like the AGCL.

They also seem to forget that one of the only (for a long time) and consistent voices in Australian Parliament is Claire Chandler a Liberal senator.

What is weird is that I have never known any friend that ‘unfriended’ another for their voting stance in Australia. I have friends who are high up in the ALP and friends who have worked for LP MPs and they are still friends. (They probably are united in their derision of Alan Jones though. But would also agree that he has the right to be out there speaking his mind).

I also find this polarised smearing a bizarre tactic. I encountered here in the UK when I first moved here and couldn’t get my head around it. Maybe it has all changed in Oz since I left 5 years ago.

And now time for a few thoughts from KJK

So why don't they work with KJK to put on an event? I have no idea at all if she is sponsored by the right, but if she is and it is out of necessity perhaps they could give her an alternative.
As for "right wing views" being something that means you shouldn't engage with someone- are we five years old? I have some views that are right of centre and others that are not. So what? People are nuanced and the more intelligent among us are capable of holding diverse views (and even changing our views). Out of interest- is it only women who are expected to have purity of thought?

And just in from KJK

The monstering of KJK continues. And it has no effect except for making those who engage in it look stupid and irrelevant.

@NameOchangeO1
So why don't they work with KJK to put on an event? I have no idea at all if she is sponsored by the right, but if she is and it is out of necessity perhaps they could give her an alternative.

Pretty sure this blog wasn't written by any Australian feminists, and it's by a non-Australian TRA.

Logic, common sense, truth, facts etc are the opposite what TRA's stand for, but it is what people like KJK stand for.

TRA's have to stoop to mudslinging because they have nothing of value to argue on behalf of their case.

Can someone give me a list of the ‘right-wing views’ that KJK has repeatedly expressed?

I’ve attended some of her events and watched quite a bit of her YouTube, and I really must be a bit thick because I can’t figure out what’s she’s said.

Well...she had the audacity to do this 👇the other day.

And as most of the right wing arguments against her are usually as coherent as me using cheese to prove her right wing credentials I'll let you draw your own conclusions as to the quality of any evidence that gets presented to you as proof.

And @IWilloBeACervix I just clocked what your user name says! 💜