Help with DD

[Dignorantonio]

Dd22 has been away at Uni. We knew she was a bit TWAW but only realised how brainwashed she’s been this weekend. Proper militant TRA. Crying when we tried to broach it with her. No understanding of GC arguments - just that we are all TERFs and bigots.

We might be able to persuade her to read or watch one or two things that could help her see though tbh I think she’s too far gone.

Anyone have any links to articles or videos that cover the main issues in one piece?

honestky was quite disturbing, she’s a bright girl and behaving like a religious fanatic.

Onnabugeisha thank you for replying. I wrote a response, but don’t want to derail the thread any further (my fault). I would love to understand your position more, will you join me if I set up a different thread?

Sorry for my derail OP

@Onnabugeisha
What are the characteristics that transwomen share with all women and no men? It’s the sum of all characteristics, not individual ones.

I really don't understand this at all

Women have a lot of different characteristics, not all women have all of them, but what they all share is XX chromosomes, which typically lead to eg wider pelvis, higher voice, female genitals and reproductive tract...then some characteristics that are more variable (height, strength, lung capacity etc) and some that are purely cultural and so very variable (hair length, clothing preference, interest in some pursuits etc)

yet you say that TW share the sum of all characteristics with women? is that really what you mean?

because it seems to me that the only characteristics TW and women share will be the most superficial and variable (clothing choice or whatever) which many real women will tell you they don't in fact share

In college I took up a religion...cried too and grew out of it.

She can be dismissive of rapists and imprisoned women because it's not remotely real to her...

Like other people have said, I don't there's a point in continuing to push the issue with her. Even if she were calm when you bring it up, it just doesn't seem very likely to me that someone of that age is going to have their mind changed on something they feel strongly about through conversations with their mother. Maybe build some common ground on some other feminist issues you agree on. My guess is she'll grow out of it eventually.

Throwing out made up stats and inaccurate history.

I feel your pain @Dignorantonio I have a young relative - with a BSc in Biology no less! who told me that there have been "medical transitions" throughout history. Now, I'm a professional academic historian, but apparently I know nothing.