Males over 12 now allowed to play in Ladies Gaelic Football

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Just that. Males who claim to be women or girls can now play against girls and women on the pitch. Women and girls already get a much smaller share of state funding towards female sports. And, now this bullsht. No details of how they plucked this out of their collective ases arrived at this policy. Having female only sport meant that women and girls were included in sport.

The GAA support the Irish language, but surely any other language can now 'identify' as Irish. The Irish flag must be flown, but again surely they should be 'inclusive' and let any other flag identify as the Irish flag.

We unfortunately have a Taoiseach (PM) who supports this destruction of female sports. When the IRFU stated they would prioritise safety and fairness for women, he asked them to reconsider those aims, and talk to the men who wanted to play in women's sports. In short, just walk all over women in Ireland.

The red herring testosterone level is there, as if it turned men into women.
I confirm that [insert name of Applicant] has:
Transitioned/or is transitioning (as appropriate) from male to female and intends on living their life as a female, and
During the previous 12 months, has a total testosterone level in serum equal to or less than 10 nanomoles per litre (nmol/L).

This is bullish*t. Probably 20 times than most women. 10nmol/L is in the normal range for men. There are probably males on the Irish rugby team with that level. Irrespective; strange times if they're pretending that this level, or any level or lack of testosterone made a female out of a male.

ladiesgaelic.ie/the-lgfa/about-us/governance/

Ross Tucker
twitter.com/Scienceofsport/status/1628485278359756800?t=Iz9hmCaN8xvMRXjPa7MIDA&s=19

Senator Sharon Keogan raised this issue in the Seanad on Tuesday. See link below. Senators Marie Sherlock and Lorraine Clifford-Lee responded to her in their contributions. The Seanad Leader, Lisa Chambers, referenced it in her summing-up reply.

www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/seanad/2023-02-21/8/

Our group chat in work is full of tirades against terfs and transphobes and plaudits for those welcoming males into women's sports. All from women, and a few men, who are self-styled "feminists". Surely even the most ardent gender ideologue can see the blatant unfairness of allowing men to insert themselves into women's sports? But they apparently don't. They just chant the catechism and renounce the heretics. It sickens me.

Lorraine Clifford Lee
"I would like to put on record that the elite LGFA players I know are very big and very strong and they are not to be messed with"

Really Lorraine, all of them?
What about non elite girls?
Are they also big and strong?

". I think it would be particularly mean-spirited if trans girls were prevented from taking part in Gaelic football in their communities because quite often in rural communities that is the only sporting activity that might be available to them, so I commend Mr. Naughton."

What about girls who will not be able to participate because of this policy?
Is it not mean spirited that they lose out?
Do they not matter?

Lorraine Clifford Lee
"I would like to put on record that the elite LGFA players I know are very big and very strong and they are not to be messed with"

Also, as far as we know, their opinion wasn't sought.

All spoofers aren't they? Considering one of them led the campaign to abolish the Seanad.

Lorraine Clifford Lee
"I would like to put on record that the elite LGFA players I know are very big and very strong and they are not to be messed with"

This is nonsense. The elite LGFA players may be very big and very strong when compared with women who do not play the sport. The same is not true when you compare them with most men, but especially with men who play the sport.

Take Rugby for instance. I was always most impressed with the women in the local team, who were so much stronger and bigger than 5'5" me. They were formidable.

At U15 level, my son's team got to train with that same women's team, and the boys were already noticeably stronger than the women. (And they played as semi-professionals whereas the U15 team were merely school boys). They were only allowed to do this once, and at the time he told me it was because they were too strong and the injury risk to the women considered too high.

I’ve I not read the whole thread but is no where exclusive now to women this is ridiculous I’m sorry but it is.

Well I hope the pandering works out for them when the inevitable truth about all this has to be faced at last.

A woman in England has been awarded £10m after being deliberately targeted by another player in a women's rugby match.

The offending player had said : ' That f*cking no 7. I'm going to break her ' after being winded in a tackle. She ' belly flopped ' on top of the victim , who will be in a wheelchair for life.

Contact sports are dangerous. This was another woman ffs. Now....what insurance company wants to front up £10m when some hulking bloke cripples a woman?

Awful for that poor woman. But it might put manners on the GAA. Ps the match was Reading v Bracknell but I can't make links work.

Re the rugby player, the story is in one of the local papers
www.bracknellnews.co.uk/news/23343257.reading-rugby-player-wins-10m-high-court-case-paralysed/

What is preventing a male-bodied teenager or adult who wants to play Gaelic football at parish level joining the men? A player with an interest in sport surely wants teammates and opponents who are well matched in size and strength so that they can enjoy the competition?

Sport. That's what it's about, surely?

No-one is suggesting keeping them out of sports participation - just saying that the women's game (and the women) should not be sacrificed.

Thanks @Chersfrozenface . That is bloody scarey. I hope that other player is banned for life. She should be in prison as that was a deliberate assault and she could have killed the opposing player.

Serious accidents are actually more common at lower levels of sport , where players are not as fit and less able to time their tackles. That's before you factor in thuggishness.

https://www.businesspost.ie/news/trans-woman-approved-to-play-womens-gaelic-football/

If Na Gaeil Aeracha want to play with a man who they believe is a woman, that's their decision. The problem is that they are forcing every player on every team they play against to do the same.
I am assuming that the LGFA will sanction any team that doesn't bow to this cheating "inclusiveness"

Came across this well-written article discussing the new LGFA eligibility criteria:

https://www.derrynow.com/news/home/1150142/secrecy-and-stonewalling-by-ladies-gaelic-football-association.html

You can see a grassroots walkout by the women who do all the unseen , unpaid work for junior level GAA.

The sort of women those craw thumping old Committee hypocrites are always praising in their post match speeches and at board meetings.

I live in rural Ireland and have always found the GAA structure a bit opaque. Our hurling team went on strike a few years ago but nobody could actually find out why? It's like Omerta....

The only way they can get these decisions through is by underhand means. Secrecy, threats, obfuscation. They know that majority are horrified by these acts of destruction of female sport. Do they really think this is sustainable in the long term?

What happens when a female is hurt? It's only a matter of time.

@Rainbowshit What happens , I suspect , is the Insurance company say ' Wtf is this ? From now on your premiums are increasing by 1000%'

Agus sin sin.

Yes, husband continually tells me not to worry about it. It will all end in sports when the insurance bill comes through. Money talks.
But I still worry because having one transgender player on a women's team could potentially bring down the club. And then the women lose out again.

My 14 year old is getting into the adolescent stage of wanting to drop out.
Normally I'd encourage her to stay.
I loved the GAA/LGFA and everything connected with it.
But they clearly don't care about us.
So I won't bother. I'll get DD doing something else.

I know 2 young people, one early 20's,one late teens, both male, both suffered serious head injuries, playing football/rugby.
What hope, then, has any girl playing against males in any similar sports?
It is seriously dangerous, and I will never understand why the LGFA agreed to this policy.
They really betrayed the very people they were supposed to represent.

The article mentions that LGFA bigwigs are refusing to answer questions or make comments on the new policy. So it’s basically them refusing to lay out their decision making process for scrutiny or to defend it except through meaningless platitudes about inclusivity.

As with so many other women’s sports, around the world, women’s Gaelic football was just starting to be taken seriously by the wider (Irish) culture and media, and women players were starting to get the respect they deserved and more sponsor support than they’d had before - so it was obviously ripe for infiltration. It’s like women’s sports are victims of their own success - men didn’t want to play in women’s sports until they could benefit from it.

That's exactly what I thought

It's only in the last 5+? Ish years you'd have winens sports updates in the news bulletins or sports review programmes.

Now look.

Just reading this and it remnds me of how James Connolly found for an Independent Ireland because the heads of the unions were all English and were consistently selling out their Irish members. Now the heads of Women's sports seem to be men who are also consistently selling out the women.

Exactly . Why is this Naughton bloke the head of Ladies GFA?

You don't see many women running men's teams or in charge of County Boards.