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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Tw in Cornton Vale segregated because of 'her' safety

60 replies

IcakethereforeIam · 17/02/2023 13:14

This story is in the newspaper that carried the latest developments in the tw butcher case

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/trans-prisoner-moved-segregation-womens-29238406

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WickedSerious · 17/02/2023 14:47

'Harryetta'🙄

Fucker couldn't even be arsed to come up with a proper name.

DuesToTheDirt · 17/02/2023 14:49

TheBiologyStupid · 17/02/2023 14:10

So is this person the fifth TW in the female estate in Scotland? (I nearly said "fifth man", which had echoes of the Cambridge spy ring.)

Looks like it. I looked at those "4/5 are murderers" articles the other day, but couldn't see what the 5th one was in for.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 17/02/2023 14:49

Exactly @JustWaking they’re the ones who insisted that TW be able to muscle their way into each & every single sex space for women and every woman who pointed out the flaws in this was called a bigot and a transphobe and ignored

so don’t start bloody bleating about the consequences of putting TW in womens prisons and how it makes the trans community look bad

we told you it would do that, we said repeatedly that you’re damaging your yen cause but you choose to tell us to fuck off so excuse me if I’m not bleeding sympathy

AnnaMagnani · 17/02/2023 14:54

Just shows how bad the risk assessment was.

Women were able to put up with a TW if he behaved OK and also they would get in trouble for being transphobic if they didn't.

Women were not prepared to put up with a paedophile - given the number of women in prison who would be quite happy to beat up a paedophile, he was now at serious risk.

TW should have been in the VP section of a male prison all along and would likely had no bother at all.

Rainbowshit · 17/02/2023 14:58

WickedSerious · 17/02/2023 14:47

'Harryetta'🙄

Fucker couldn't even be arsed to come up with a proper name.

It's obviously such a piss take isn't it?

SinnerBoy · 17/02/2023 14:59

GailBlancheViola · Today 14:09

It's really quite alarming just how high the proportion of trans identifying males within the prison system are either (a) violent (b) sexual offenders or (c) both. I wonder what the reason for that could be?

Male pattern violent and sex offending, combined with the whole paraphilia cluster thing?

Again, I wonder what the reason for this could be?

Misogynistic, controlling behaviour and again, male pattern violent and sex offending. At a rough guess.

ControversialOpening · 17/02/2023 15:11

Harryetta - to no one’s surprise - seems to have a history of sex offending. In both of these reports Harryetta is described as a woman, and there is no photo to help realise precisely what that means:
www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/local-news/woman-appears-dumfries-sheriff-court-8566714

www.gallowaygazette.co.uk/news/woman-denies-sexual-act-2369123

SinnerBoy · 17/02/2023 15:16

Here you go, sick bags at the ready:

i2-prod.dailyrecord.co.uk/incoming/article29238378.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200b/1_Harryetta-ThompsonJPG.jpg

GailBlancheViola · 17/02/2023 15:20

SinnerBoy · 17/02/2023 14:59

GailBlancheViola · Today 14:09

It's really quite alarming just how high the proportion of trans identifying males within the prison system are either (a) violent (b) sexual offenders or (c) both. I wonder what the reason for that could be?

Male pattern violent and sex offending, combined with the whole paraphilia cluster thing?

Again, I wonder what the reason for this could be?

Misogynistic, controlling behaviour and again, male pattern violent and sex offending. At a rough guess.

Careful there @SinnerBoy talking facts and sense is not allowed where this ideology is concerned.

SinnerBoy · 17/02/2023 15:22

Oops! Sorry about that. I'd best do a quick reset - there, back to insane lies again, situation normal!

GailBlancheViola · 17/02/2023 15:23

SinnerBoy · 17/02/2023 15:22

Oops! Sorry about that. I'd best do a quick reset - there, back to insane lies again, situation normal!

😂

SignOnTheWindow · 17/02/2023 15:40

SinnerBoy · 17/02/2023 14:00

nilsmousehammer · Today 13:51#

Well done to the women prisoners who refused to soldier.

Yes, it seems as though they were about to re-enact Diana and Actaeon.

I was thinking more Euripides' Bacchae...

Americansmoothy · 17/02/2023 15:46

IcakethereforeIam · 17/02/2023 14:32

Does anyone know when Harryetta (ffs) discovered his 'authentic self'? Is he an example of prison onset gender dysphoria? I can't remember if it said in the article.

Isn’t it amazing how many new types of GD are being identified all the time. We now have:

  • original GD
  • Rapid onset GD - teen girls who find the idea of being women so horrific in this misogynistic world they want to mutilate their bodies to become men
  • INCEL onset GD
  • Arrest for sex offences onset GD
  • Prison onset GD
  • AGP onset GD
  • Can’t win in men’s sport onset GD
  • Exhibitionist onset GD
  • Voyeur onset GD

Wouldn’t it be good if the gmt collected robust data to identify the onset and how many detransition when they don’t get convicted, don’t get a custodial sentence, get out of prison, get to old to beat women at sport etc.

After all there is no way this data could possibly reveal that gasp shock horror men pretend to be GD is to avoid male prisons and to rape and sexually assault women. No that couldn’t be possible as it would make all those old fashioned wimmin right.

RoyalCorgi · 17/02/2023 15:48

SinnerBoy · 17/02/2023 13:34

www.theguardian.com/society/2023/feb/17/transgender-prison-row-heightens-safety-fears-in-scotlands-lgbtq-community

Whine, whine, whine etc.

The furore surrounding the placement of transgender offenders in Scottish prisons has sharpened personal safety fears across Scotland’s LGBTQ+ community, the Guardian has been told.

No concrete examples, for some reason.

“I’ve heard from a lot of people who are very frightened,” said Jennie Kermode...

“I’ve had a number of people say they’ve had family members getting in touch to have fractious conversations,” Valentine added.

People are saying, I have heard .... straight out of the Donald Trump handbook.

There was a time when the Guardian would have run a sympathetic piece about vulnerable women prisoners being locked up with murderers. Not now. It's all about how the nasty feminists who made a fuss about it have hurt trans people. Could the Guardian sink any lower?

ArabellaScott · 17/02/2023 16:24

If this really is Harryetta's Twitter, and what it says is true, then has id'd as trans since age 18.

'AT THE AGE OF 18 I DECIDED TO GO ON THE SANDY CLINIC
WAITING LIST SCOTLAND GLASGOW,
BUT THEY NEGLECTED MY TREATMENT FOR 12 YEARS'

twitter.com/harryettathomp1

ArabellaScott · 17/02/2023 16:25

The furore surrounding the placement of transgender offenders in Scottish prisons has sharpened personal safety fears across Scotland’s LGBTQ+ community, the Guardian has been told

No shit. I expect all the women in Scottish prisons, and their family and friends, have safety fears.

ArabellaScott · 17/02/2023 16:33

www.gallowaygazette.co.uk/news/port-william-woman-fined-after-sex-act-2349481

'A Port William woman who performed a sex act at the

window of her home was fined £180 at the Sheriff Court in Stranraer on Tuesday.

Harryetta Thompson, 24, of 18 Manx View, had admitted the lewd behaviour at an earler diet.

Her solicitor, Michael Kilkerr, said what happened could

be attributed to the “harassment and discriminatory

behaviour” the accused was subjected to within a very small community.'

SinnerBoy · 17/02/2023 16:34

SignOnTheWindow · Today 15:40

I was thinking more Euripides' Bacchae...

That's the one I actually meant, but I couldn't bring it to mind.

ArabellaScott · 17/02/2023 16:34

2013 article, so has been trans for a long time.

SinnerBoy · 17/02/2023 16:36

RoyalCorgi · Today 15:48

There was a time when the Guardian would have run a sympathetic piece about vulnerable women prisoners being locked up with murderers. Not now. It's all about how the nasty feminists who made a fuss about it have hurt trans people. Could the Guardian sink any lower?

It's so depressing, isn't it? I first read the Guardian at 23, in an FE College library and soon came to enjoy it, but now? It's the same with Labour, who can I bloody well vote for now?

DuesToTheDirt · 17/02/2023 19:55

ArabellaScott · 17/02/2023 16:34

2013 article, so has been trans for a long time.

So why are the current reports referring to him as a man, with his male name (unlike the previous reports where he was called a woman with a silly female name)?

JaneorEleven · 17/02/2023 20:03

“A prison source said: “Thompson is a disturbed individual and very volatile but prisoners have accepted her up to this week.

“She was overheard on the phone, making clear that her history includes sex crime involving children – and that’s a game changer.”

“but prisoners have accepted “her” up to this week”. I highly doubt that, utter BS. It’s just that this week women are finally being listened to.

DuesToTheDirt · 17/02/2023 20:14

DuesToTheDirt · 17/02/2023 19:55

So why are the current reports referring to him as a man, with his male name (unlike the previous reports where he was called a woman with a silly female name)?

Sorry, ignore me, I was confusing this person with the Galashiels butcher, who has been reported as male (these people are multiplying before our eyes!)

AlecTrevelyan006 · 17/02/2023 20:29

I guess this is why the SNP were being very careful with their wording: No trans women in female jail have history of violence against women, says Justice Secretary Keith Brown

news.sky.com/story/no-trans-women-in-female-jail-have-history-of-violence-against-women-says-justice-secretary-keith-brown-12799278

ArabellaScott · 17/02/2023 20:33

JaneorEleven · 17/02/2023 20:03

“A prison source said: “Thompson is a disturbed individual and very volatile but prisoners have accepted her up to this week.

“She was overheard on the phone, making clear that her history includes sex crime involving children – and that’s a game changer.”

“but prisoners have accepted “her” up to this week”. I highly doubt that, utter BS. It’s just that this week women are finally being listened to.

I hope that women in prison know that we are thinking of them and doing our best to help ensure they aren't subjected to mixed sex prisons. I hope the uproar and outrage in the media at Isla Bryson reached them and that they feel empowered to say when they are not comfortable.

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