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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

They is not very bright… is they?

65 replies

ColinRobinsonsFart · 16/02/2023 10:25

No shit Sherlock… emma says they are not getting any male acting roles….

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-11756551/Emma-Corrin-reveals-love-play-male-roles.html

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RoyalCorgi · 16/02/2023 12:44

pizzaHeart · 16/02/2023 12:23

Emma Corrin has a particular type of delicate female attractiveness which is a huge factor in the excellent roles Corrin has been lucky enough to get cast in.
I agree with @TheCountessofFitzdotterel and also find Emma Corin’s claims annoying. It would be very superficial to offer Emma a male part unless it’s a very specific part.
That’s why I was never invited to play Diana - I don’t look the part . (not that I’m invited to anything at all)

It's extremely disingenuous. Apart from modelling, acting is the main profession where looks are of paramount importance. I remember a female acting acquaintance saying to me that she'd got used to auditioning for parts and being told she wasn't pretty enough (and this is someone who was more than averagely physically attractive). Casting directors want someone with a certain look: young, old, short, tall, dark, blonde etc - and very often the look they want, particularly in women, is "extremely attractive". To be blunt, if they want to cast a man, they want someone who looks like a man, not someone who looks like a woman (in Emma's case, because they is one).

ErrolTheDragon · 16/02/2023 12:44

In the case I've just mentioned, the only 'interesting' thing is that it - quite rightly - wasn't interesting!

RaininginDarling · 16/02/2023 12:46

I highly recommend listening to the latest episode of Triggernometry with Rosie Kay. They discuss, more broadly, the elitism within the arts and drama schools.

Beowulfa · 16/02/2023 12:48

Private Eye has a special section dedicated to the self-absorbed witterings of luvvies about themselves and their craft. They really do have no self-awareness.

When Roger Moore died they did a special "Non Luvvie" headline with his quote: "you see I've been very lucky really, as I'm not very good at acting."

Crutcher · 16/02/2023 12:52

How on earth she hopes to get male roles when she's so clearly a (pretty) woman is bizarre.

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 16/02/2023 13:00

Would Principal Boy in a panto suffice?

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 16/02/2023 13:00

The utter lack of self awareness is gobsmacking. She is a very pretty blonde. She is skinny and has quite childlike features, so she looks very young. Her success in her chosen career is in no insignificant part due to her being a very pretty, very young looking blonde woman!

howmanybicycles · 16/02/2023 13:03

Yes they is missing the point. When women (real ones) play women, no one has checked whether their specific gender identity ( of the 100 plus we are told we can pick from) matches that of the person they're portraying. It's matched on body type and hers is clearly female.

BoreOfWhabylon · 16/02/2023 13:19

Of course they is right!

The Crown would no doubt have been even more successful if Eddie Izzard had been cast in the Diana role.

Netflix really missed a trick there.

PortiasBiscuit · 16/02/2023 13:27

viques · 16/02/2023 12:39

Even more interesting to see those roles offered to disabled actors, black actors, actors for whom English isn’t a first language , actors with strong regional accents and all the other actors whose lived experience is statistically more prevalent in society than non binary actors and yet whose presence on stage, in films and tv is noticeable by its absence.

Not disagreeing with you, very few roles actually need to go to any type of specific person if you think about it.

Cuppasoupmonster · 16/02/2023 13:29

OrangeToothbrush · 16/02/2023 10:48

They added: 'The beauty of acting is taking on a character that doesn't necessarily have to be completely in tune with your own experience, it's sort of a way to explore."
Interesting the they/ thems of the world can express this rather obvious opinion without donning a hair shirt isn't it!

also interesting they says that when they would probably disapprove of a ‘cis’ person playing a cool trans/NB person because they would consider thems to be stealing their role from a fellow them

Truthlikeness · 16/02/2023 13:32

I would have though being cast as a villain in a superhero movie was quite an achievement for a petite, feminine looking young woman. An interesting role like that is more than most female actors can hope for.

eighteenthirteen1 · 16/02/2023 13:35

ErrolTheDragon · 16/02/2023 12:14

In the meantime, they will just get cast as a detective/superhero/love interest/cleaner/ teacher/doctor etc. but a female one, because they are female!

Being gender critical, I wish it was possible to have more roles where the sex of the person genuinely didn't matter to the storyline or how the various characters interact - but at this point in our culture, it would be unlikely to ring true to life.

There are probably some roles which are or could be like this, aren't they the ones this person should go for rathe than wanting 'male' roles?

But in real life our sex does affect how we interact with others. We're animals at the end of the day.

SignOnTheWindow · 16/02/2023 13:41

There's always the role of Prince in the annual panto 🤷‍♀️

Tallisker · 16/02/2023 13:45

There was a non-binary person on Naked Attraction the other day (yes, yes, I know) and they were completely indistinguishable from a woman. Honestly, there was nothing non-binary about them with their kit off.

Shortpoet · 16/02/2023 13:47

They’ll be more non-binary roles in the future when in 20 years Russell T Davis does a nostalgic look back at the 2020s.

Non-binary as Folk.

Until then, we’ll have to wait.

TheBiologyStupid · 16/02/2023 14:13

Brilliant, Shortpoet 😂

twinmum2007 · 16/02/2023 14:15

viques · 16/02/2023 12:14

Exactly, I saw Tamsin Greig playing Malvolio at the National and it worked, because TG is a better actor than poor Emma can ever hope to be.

See this is the thing Emma, if producers and directors think you are good enough they will offer you the roles, but if they don’t, they won’t.

And Fiona Shaw played Lear some years ago.

RudsyFarmer · 16/02/2023 14:17

DameMaud · 16/02/2023 10:49

Isn't this (actors should be able to play parts outside of their lived experience) in direct contradiction to all the furore in recent years about actors needing to have lived experience to play roles eg.trans parts needing to be played by trans actors?
(Hurried type- sorry)

I thought exactly the same. A little bit of appropriation here isn’t there 🤔

Anactor · 16/02/2023 14:19

twinmum2007 · 16/02/2023 14:15

And Fiona Shaw played Lear some years ago.

Alex Kingston is playing Prospero at Stratford at the moment.

OnTheRoll · 16/02/2023 14:21

FFS being non-binary does not preclude her from being female. It doesn't mean that she is suddenly female and female both. Why would she expect to play male parts? Maybe she can play non-binary ones

viques · 16/02/2023 15:23

SignOnTheWindow · 16/02/2023 13:41

There's always the role of Prince in the annual panto 🤷‍♀️

Since Emma is binary she could also read for the role of the Widow Twankey/Stepmother character too. Though personally I would rather see Ian McKellan in a role like that.

cushioncovers · 16/02/2023 15:29

Twawmyarse2 · 16/02/2023 12:07

When will people like Emma realise that it doesn't matter how you feel? If it looks/walks/quacks like a duck - it's a duck. Why on earth would anyone consider her for a male role?

Stop asking other people to live in the fantasy world you inhabit.

This

bobbytorq · 16/02/2023 15:32

Dizzy bint. That's like wondering why I don't get the part of an Amazonian goddess, although I would pull that off better than she would try to look like a bloke.

Delphinium20 · 16/02/2023 15:36

The goal is attention.