Telegraph- Whenever people accuse JK Rowling of transphobia, they never quote a single word she’s said.

[MrsJackRackham]

www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/if-it-weren-t-for-jk-rowling-nicola-sturgeon-would-never-have-fallen/ar-AA17wXhl?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=fd3aec318b9242f0a6c57313e19331c3
Apologies if this has already been posted. Nice and succinct.

@MishyJDI

It's up to trans people to determine is something is transphobic or not. I would not presume to answer for them.

Why not? It's never stopped you before.

I see nothing transphobic in there that JKR said, so could you please point it out? Her exact words that show transphobia please. I'll be waiting

You'll be waiting a long time 😆

I think what is being implied is that they pass as a transwoman so well, that the doctor doesn't even realise they are a biological male and they have to remind the doctor/nurse numerous times that they're a woman albeit with different biology. At least I hope that's what they mean 🤔

To be honest, I have no idea what they think, if I did, I might be able to better understand how men can become women, just by the power of suggestion and a few hormones 😶

It's so odd, isnt it? If they accuse someone of something which is apparently so obvious, you would expect damning quotes to be there at their fingertips.

If you wrote 'find me something racist Marine Le Pen has said' or 'find me something sexist Piers Morgan has said', then even if the person could not recall their words instantly, it would take them less than five minutes on Google to find something.

All they can do with JKR is waffle and handwave and say she is clearly transphobic because, look, she is, etc. It's utter nonsense.

I, and almost every trans person I’ve talked to, have had to teach the doctors and nurses who aren’t experts how our biology works just to get basic healthcare. Often one of the main things that trans people want for the world is a better understanding of trans bodies and of biology.

This one baffled me too. What is so different about a "trans body" that medical professionals need to be educated on it? Trust me they know how male and female biology works and they have also studied all of the DSDs at some point. If you've taken cross-sex hormones or had surgery I can see how you'd need to include that in your medical history.

Giving your medical history isn't having to teach the doctors and nurses - it is giving a medical history just like everyone else.

All they can do with JKR is waffle and handwave and say she is clearly transphobic because, look, she is, etc. It's utter nonsense.

It's like the language of faith. She's transphobic because it's been decreed from on high. The don't need proof.

I think what is being implied is that they pass as a transwoman so well, that the doctor doesn't even realise they are a biological male and they have to remind the doctor/nurse numerous times that they're a woman albeit with different biology. At least I hope that's what they mean 🤔

Also known as giving your medical history :)

I think I'll be waiting forever 😂😂

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That was for @CountZacular 's post

Yes. There were people talking non stop about how much they wanted to slap JK and then the Sun had her ex on the front page, profiling him like he was a hero for slapping her.

It was honestly awful. Even if she had said something transphobic (which she hadn't), what they did to her was utterly disgusting.

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · Today 17:12

I'll be waiting until after the heat death of the Universe!

As I have said upthread, antisemitism isn't always about things someone has said, it can also be when someone chooses to remain silent - which is what Corbyn did numerous times when Jewish members of the Labour party complained of antisemitisim.

And it can also be about things he's said, eg 'British Zionists...don't want to study history.. and having lived in this country a very long time, probably all their lives, don't understand English irony'. As Luciana Berger said, the remarks made her, as “a proud British Jew feel unwelcome in my own party”. She added: “I’ve lived in Britain all my life and I don’t need any lessons in history/irony.”

Monty’s a swivel eyed lunatic who makes ridiculous claims. Monty was born male with no DSD. Monty wishes to be addressed as if female but isn’t and never will be. Doctor Lord Robert Winston was very, very clear on that issue.

Translesbians are heterosexual. They can’t be victims of homophobia because they’re not homosexual. Homosexuality is same sex attraction.

Monty and their ilk trying to redefine the language women - including lesbians - use about ourselves is evidence of their privilege, not their powerlessness.

@ScribblingPixie

I must admit that when anyone starts talking about British Zionists, that's always a big red antisemitic flag for me.

As Luciana Berger said... isn't she the one who accused a Jewish woman of anti-Semitism, when asked a fairly innocuous question? Or the one who made false complaints about 2 Labour members in public, lying that they'd said abusive things, despite video evidence showing nothing of the sort?

I mean, the actual threats and abuse she's had are incontrovertible, at least one man was jailed for it.

It may have been Louise Ellman....

Ah yes, here it is:

www.thejc.com/news/uk/ipso-upholds-labour-activist-s-accuracy-complaint-against-jc-1.493698

Read it and also can't find anything - although trying to scroll through the annoying 100 ads isn't helping the article flow.

A tenuous link could be "Reasons to be worried about trans activism", I don't know what she said here but the following spring to mind ... (note: she refers to activism, not trans individuals)

• cheerleading young people to remove healthy body parts replacing them with pretend ones,
• taking womens and girls spaces in sport
• openly threatening GC women on social media with rape, violence and death

These are things to be worried about,no?

Ok then, I'm saying that's antisemitic. Tell me why it isn't racist to say British Jews don't understand the British character.

I do get where you're coming from.

By the same token, it's therefore up to women to determine if something is femphobic. These things are:

Men in any protected women's spaces, regardless of their identity
Calling women uterus haver, birth givers, chest feeders, womb owners or anything else other than 'woman'
Saying TW are women
Making all toilets mixed sex in order to make some men more comfortable without regard for the women's needs and thoughts
Refusing to say why any woman is actually being accused of nasty bigotry
Calling us terfs
Threatening physical harm or rape to women just because they disagree with you.
Reducing womanhood to a physical costume which men can put on.

ScribblingPixie · Today 17:59

Ok then, I'm saying that's antisemitic. Tell me why it isn't racist to say British Jews don't understand the British character.

I'm not, I was just saying that (if you read my post) she certainly has been on the receiving end of some horrific abuse. I just wondered why, when there were verifiable incidents prosecuted, some Labour members felt the need to fabricate incidents.

I think what is being implied is that they pass as a transwoman so well, that the doctor doesn't even realise they are a biological male and they have to remind the doctor/nurse numerous times that they're a woman albeit with different biology. At least I hope that's what they mean.

Can that really be what they mean? If it's really simply that they allegedly pass so well, then surely the words 'I'm a transwoman' would do the job. Why the need for an explanation of their biology?!

It is up to women to determine if something is misogynistic or not.
It is up to women to speak of how it feels to be a woman.
It is up to women to talk about our experiences and our needs.
Funny how some men feel entitled to dictate what it is to be a woman.