Council's gender neutral toilets discriminated against female clerk

[DerekFaker]

I couldn't see a thread about this. Good man, that judge.

"Judge James Tayler said the facilities were "less favourable" for women due to the lack of a sanitary bin and the likelihood of coming across a man at the urinal.

He said: "No woman or girl should have to walk past the urinals to get to the toilet, and no man should have the risk of women walking past.

"Even in the smallest of buildings it is possible to have decent facilities, and in larger buildings providing ladies, gents and a unisex option in separate rooms means that everyone is catered for." "

www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leicestershire-64559184.amp

Woooo!

There is a discussion on here somewhere, but your thread title seems more catchy because I can’t remember we we talked about it!

Found it!

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4733947-extremely-useful-womens-toilets-decision-just-released-by-the-eat

It's not clear from this - what about the kids, if they're using what were formerly the womens, are girls having the share with boys there?

I think yes, little boys are sharing the women’s loos with little girls.

But it’s a play group, not a school, so I would imagine that the children are v small and supervised by parents?

In which case it’s normal for little preschool boys to be in with their mums in public loos.

CBA to see if that’s confirmed in the tribunal judgment though!

And this would be the judge who ruled against Maya Forstater in her ET hearing I imagine. The spelling 'Tayler' is quite unusual, so I think it must be him.

He was the one who pronounced that Maya's belief that sex is binary, immutable and has consequences was 'not worthy of respect in a democratic society'.

Now he's decided women should not have to see men pissing.

Progress, I suppose.

Oh, well spotted.

Yes, good catch.

I suppose having your ruling spectacularly and very publicly demolished would tend you towards being more cautious re: material reality in future!

Or he sensibly decided that Maya's views weren't worthy in order that she would appeal, and the appeal decision would be legally binding

I like that positive framing!

Ms Miller won an initial tribunal in 2010 and a judge dismissed the council's appeal this month.

In a bid to resolve the issue in 2017, Ms Miller was told to use the men's toilet, but when doing so, to put up a gender neutral toilet sign.

Wow that's a long time ... Glad the council's appeal was refused. I wonder what their excuse was.....