Thank you

[HisCappaWasDedatedFromHisHead]

Hi all,

I’ve been a lurker here for many years but just registered the other day. For the first time I’m seeing the gender debate actually being properly debated outside of Mumsnet. It’s giving me hope.

For so long I read the posts on this board with growing concern. I’ve a 16 year old DD and really wondered what sort of world she would grow up in if our sex based protections were removed. It’s bad enough as it is. Society seems to be riddled with misogyny and it’s very hard to unsee once you’ve seen it.

I tried to talk to family and friends about what was happening but it would get heated and in some cases they just wouldn’t believe the lunacy around it or were #bekind. It was so disappointing and frustrating.

I know it’s not over but my tiktok is awash with this now, so is DDs, the truth of it finally being exposed.

Only for Mumsnet and all of you I would have been none the wiser so I just wanted thank you for the insightful posts, the resources and the evidence you’ve posted over the years.

I'm also very grateful for this board, nearly two years on. Other forums I use will lock threads and/or remove posts that would be fine on here. As a teacher, I know that if I sniff any hint of Stonewall nonsense being imported, I can come here for great advice and links.

Thank you all for keeping my sanity. I've brought this subject up with a few more people. They agree but are still fairly disinterested with the discussion.

I kind of think if the Isla Bryson story hasn't peaked you into a raging Boudicca then nothing will.

So I'm grateful for the chance to talk about things on here.

This! Thank you...

I mentioned on another thread today just how much I appreciate this board. For keeping it honest.

Yes, thank you all.
From unwittingly captured to rewilded through these threads.

An extraordinary moment in Scottish politics!

Adding my thanks. I knew very little about feminism as a whole but particularly the trans issue and women’s rights. I’m not anywhere near as academic or articulate as most of you but read as many threads as I can and learn.

Unbelievably thankful too. Have spent this afternoon passing on much of what I've learnt (but generally kept to myself) over the last few months to my sister this afternoon.
I feel ashamed that I didn't realise a lot of it before, but determined to make up for it now. ..oh and not keep it to myself anymore.

Sister you say...

Then please send her the joke my sister sent me last night

I now identify as invisible.
I was born visible but now I'm transparent.
My pronouns are who?/where?

I want to add my name here too, in support and appreciation

Ha ha I literally just saw that this morning on a FB friends page! I have re-followed her after having a break due to a clash on other subjects...but it seems we are united on this!

In relation to tiktok - I visit the building they are based in in London. I've never seen anyone over age 25 in the staff. So 18 to 25 employee age range. I wonder if they will manipulate the algorithms if they are all wokers.

Agree. I am constantly blown away with the intelligence and tenacity of the women on these threads.

Welcome aboard, I shall rattle over with the clinking drinks trolley shortly.

Welcome @HisCappaWasDedatedFromHisHead , I have said it before and will say again: Mumsnet saved my sanity in 2020 and has continued to save it since, I really admire the posters on here and the brisk robust conversations that take place. So much detail and evidence and clear thinking, and links! Welcome 💐

Same. And I'd even like to thank the finger- wagger and TRA monitors who like to plop and run or post to tell us how silly we are - they consistently prove over and over again the ridiculousness of their ideology

Keep up the good work!

Thanks,OP. I get a lot of useful info from Mumsnet too, and I’ve been a feminist for decades. Good to have more on board!

This board was my first oasis of sanity when I was desperately trying to persuade myself that I had misunderstood, missed something obvious or was totally exaggerating the problem.

The more I investigated, the more I realised that I had understood correctly and we are facing the biggest assault on women’s rights ever. In previous generations, afaik, we have only ever moved forward. Now we are racing backwards to Victorian times and beyond.

I thank every single woman (and the odd man) who has given their time to post on here, whether they are pro or anti women.

I feel like we have all contributed to a big change.

And thank you to Mumsnet for hosting against such vicious opposition.

It’s a sane place for me too. Rational, straight talking, clear and not based on lies.

I worry what will happen if Labour start to reverse what we’ve done if they get in but at least this board will be here. Hopefully not shut down..

It’s also incredible that mn has impacted what’s going on

@TightFistedWozerk @Ofcourseshecan and @Pudmyboy thanks for the warm welcome. Clearly not alone 😊.

@BordoisAgain so true about the ploppers. I do wonder what they think they gain from doing it though. Talk about kicking yourself in the foot.

Yes same. Thank you for waking me up.

Me too, OP. I sought it out when my (at the time)15 year old not long but proudly out DD got totally harangued for her stance that as a lesbian she would not date a male who identified as a woman. I was beyond furious with no vocabulary to express it, so my lurking on here has been empowering and eye-opening. I am now finding allies at work and quietly building more support where I can. This board gives me the words I didn't know I needed for an anger I didn't know I was building.

I don't think I'll ever forget the feeling of relief when I blundered on to this board and discovered that lots of intelligent and formidable women had a very sophisticated and articulate understanding of things I was only just starting to wrap my brain around. Thank you all.

@MyBloodyMaryneedsmoreTabasco honest to God that’s one of the biggest bugbears I have with this ideology. Actually everything about it becomes a bugbear when I think of it but cheese n’ rice talk about entitlement and arrogance wtf… I don’t know how I’d handle that.

I struggled tbh. My initial thought was "Tell them to fuck off" but that doesn't actually improve anything. I found information on here, gave her links to people who are making a difference, lesbians who are on her side. It's been hard for her and it's not a battle I can fight for her, but she's been very brave and is persevering.