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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Kate Coleman on Free Speech Nation GB News

35 replies

Rightsraptor · 29/01/2023 20:24

Just that really. Kate, from Keep Prisons Single Sex, was just on the segment that finished at 8.20 talking about men in women's prisons. She was extraordinarily good, so clear & concise. You could hear a pin drop.

Brava, Kate.

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FactsAreNotMean · 29/01/2023 20:26

She was excellent. Crystal clear, pulled no punches and very clearly knew her stuff exceptionally well.

Cherry60 · 29/01/2023 20:27

She was excellent and Andrew Doyle was really good in not speaking over her, he's done a lot of good work on the trans issue.

Genesis1v27 · 29/01/2023 20:48

A link to the segment:

Mollyollydolly · 29/01/2023 21:11

She was great. How have we got to this stage. Just stating facts and common sense. I really wish there would be a public inquiry into this, a truly independent one, but there wont be. Someone from the prisons service will no doubt end up being the fall guy.

Helleofabore · 29/01/2023 21:46

Thank you Kate. That was such a good and clear interview.

morningtoncrescent62 · 29/01/2023 22:12

Thank you for posting this. What a brave, eloquent, compassionate, superbly-informed woman she is. If only people like her were running the country.

WhineyVaginey · 29/01/2023 22:29

Kate Coleman has so much integrity. Quietly working non-stop for women in prison. I'd give her crown if I could.

FOJN · 29/01/2023 22:47

Wow this is the first time I've seen Kate interviewed and she was phenomenal, clear and unequivocal. I hope we get to see more of her.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 29/01/2023 22:52

What a brilliant speaker - clear, articulate and knows her subject so well. Hope she's interviewed more widely.

MorvenOfMalvern · 29/01/2023 22:53

She was brilliant.

I really liked the effect on the studio aideince. Presumably all fairly clued up people who will know at least the bones of the arguments at play. They started off quite active, clapping etc and gradually became more still and there was a real feeling of them grasping the seriousness. One shot showed them completely still listening to her and every single face grave.

Kate was so good, so clear, so knowledgeable and so righteously cross. Being able to get across so many points in a accessible way so quickly is an incredible skills. Introducing the elements of subterfuge and planned policy capture and backing that up with names, dates, organisations to really get across the dark background to a lot of this.

What is ridiculous is this is someone who has not been widely interviewed. I've followed this increasingly closely recently but never ever heard her interviewed before. Have the BBC ever had her on? Woman's Hour? Have I just missed her?

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 29/01/2023 22:59

she was ever so good

Andrew Doyle was the most sympathetic of interviewers, he basically let her say what ever she wanted. but at this point I feel women are owed a couple of helpful interviews

EndlessTea · 29/01/2023 23:13

Wow! That was so good.

Melroses · 29/01/2023 23:22

It was indeed.

stealtheatingtunnocks · 29/01/2023 23:25

I’m picking up how many big hitting feminists were at this Scottish conusltison. Kate, MBM, FWS, Shereen Benjamin, Gussie, Scottish feminsit network, women’s rights network, detransitioners, did JKR manage to sneak in under a merkin cloak of invisible?

Datun · 29/01/2023 23:33

MorvenOfMalvern · 29/01/2023 22:53

She was brilliant.

I really liked the effect on the studio aideince. Presumably all fairly clued up people who will know at least the bones of the arguments at play. They started off quite active, clapping etc and gradually became more still and there was a real feeling of them grasping the seriousness. One shot showed them completely still listening to her and every single face grave.

Kate was so good, so clear, so knowledgeable and so righteously cross. Being able to get across so many points in a accessible way so quickly is an incredible skills. Introducing the elements of subterfuge and planned policy capture and backing that up with names, dates, organisations to really get across the dark background to a lot of this.

What is ridiculous is this is someone who has not been widely interviewed. I've followed this increasingly closely recently but never ever heard her interviewed before. Have the BBC ever had her on? Woman's Hour? Have I just missed her?

Yes, when she talked about the chilling nature of what she was witnessing, you could feel the cold settling on everyone in the room.

That, and the description of how far back this goes, and how things were slowly and deliberately put in place.

She comes across as entirely credible, and she names names. There is no hinting, or implication, or analogies, she comes right out and says it.

Even a year ago, trying to tell people that the entire ideology has been stealthily put in place year in, year out, deliberately under the radar, would have them tapping on your foil hat. But all that has now changed.

The idea of maniacs and rapists being sent to women's prisons, because they want to be, is no longer far-fetched.

Feministwoman · 29/01/2023 23:49

She was brilliant.
So much sunlight, the last few days.
Kudos to GB News, they've done a lot of great coverage

ClaphamSouth · 30/01/2023 00:03

Thank you for sharing that. It was very eye opening, and I had thought I knew a fair bit about this subject.

My contempt for those who constructed or who have helped these virulently anti-woman mechanisms along could not be any deeper. I almost wish I had a religious faith so I could comfort myself with thoughts of what these awful people undoubtedly face in the hereafter.

Tallisker · 30/01/2023 00:31

I still can't get my head round the why. Why do they do this? Why did transman James Morton want men in women's prisons so that other institutions and single-sex spaces couldn't say no? Why?

I understand that it has been a long game but why? Why have they been pushing for the desecration of the language of women, the words we use to describe our everyday?

EndlessTea · 30/01/2023 00:49

Tallisker · 30/01/2023 00:31

I still can't get my head round the why. Why do they do this? Why did transman James Morton want men in women's prisons so that other institutions and single-sex spaces couldn't say no? Why?

I understand that it has been a long game but why? Why have they been pushing for the desecration of the language of women, the words we use to describe our everyday?

I keep going on about Trans Britain at the moment and I think it is because James Morton, like all the other TAs is selfish, smug, devious and has low empathy.

I think there is also naïveté about male sexual motivations demonstrated by many ‘trans men’.

James Morton seems completely oblivious to any possible hidden agendas that men gathering to protest against the Sex Offenders Bill might have, or hidden agendas as to why they might want to continue to work together as activists to influence other laws.

JM takes it all at face value, weaving feminist arguments about vulnerability into their activism, sidling up to EVAWG organisations to get them onside, so that this cohort of activists who joined together to protest the Sex Offenders Bill could have more sway.

Low empathy, devious.

EndlessTea · 30/01/2023 00:56

*I keep going on about Trans Britain at the moment and after seeing JMs contributions

Helleofabore · 30/01/2023 04:57

Tallisker · 30/01/2023 00:31

I still can't get my head round the why. Why do they do this? Why did transman James Morton want men in women's prisons so that other institutions and single-sex spaces couldn't say no? Why?

I understand that it has been a long game but why? Why have they been pushing for the desecration of the language of women, the words we use to describe our everyday?

Because it validates James Morton as being a transitioned female. James is validated as their desired gender if they are fully considered to be undifferentiated as any other ‘male’ person. So therefore, why on earth would James consider other women’s needs?

To do so would mean that James couldn’t insist (and likely get) exactly what they desired to make them feel they were fully valid.

Morton and Whittle have certainly only ever come across as misogynists. I guess that was as they desired too.

Norma27 · 30/01/2023 06:24

Kate Coleman is an amazing woman. I was in contact with her a couple of years ago and am in awe of her.
she was spectacular in that interview, and as said above the impact on the audience was extraordinary. I have seen her on one ir two other interviews but I can’t remember where now. She deserves much wider coverage.
KPSS (Keep Prisons Single Sex) have set up a crowdfunder if people have any spare change. They need funds to keep doing their work and helping women.

KeepPrisonsSingleSex · 30/01/2023 06:52

Thank you so much everyone! Your support and this feedback mean a lot. xx

Eddielizzard · 30/01/2023 08:42

It should be 'make prisons single sex again'!

So well spoken Kate, thank you for your clarity and bravery.

Rightsraptor · 30/01/2023 08:47

KPSS will definitely be getting a donation from me next pay day.

Kate talked of a 'tall, willowy transwoman who was jailed for fraud' being used as a generic description of a typical tw prisoner in an influential document. I'd love to read that, must find it. So how they must hate the optics of Andrew Burns with his bare chest & arrogant stare, and Adam Graham of the shaven head & facial tattoos.

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