What are UK schools teaching?

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Just curious to hear what, if anything, your children have been taught about the trans issue? (At either primary or secondary school).

My own kids will be starting to primary school soon and I just want to get an idea of how much exposure to this topic they might receive.

@Grammarnut apparently it was getting too "heated"
You know, parents getting annoyed when they realised someone who believes in multiple genders and has no discernable training in PSHE was coming into school to show off their joy at having mastectomy and testosterone use. And they have social media links to Mermaids etc so if your child follow them they will have the algorithmic fun of getting into a dark rabbit hole like so many others. I could go on but it will probably get this thread deleted.

tinkerella1
Thanks. I had a look at Jude online and read about a school - Mill Hill? - so guessed this might be the case. Thanks for confirming. It should be perfectly possible to check up on speakers in schools and give useful links without getting deleted here! I am 🙁

PaterPower · Today 11:07
@rabbitwoman - what was the result of your counter grievance? Or is it all still ongoing?

For those teachers on the thread saying they don’t (or their school doesn’t) teach the whole pink brain / genderbread BS, are you aware of any schools local to you that do?

Watch out for them teaching things covertly.

Look how laden with gender identity ideology these primary school resources from “Jigsaw” are.

The guidance notes they say are based WHO all but says we have a sex but we also have a ‘gender identity’. Then they go on to show they base that on stereotypes.

I don't think I could let that go without speaking to the school and expressing my concern that one of my child's teachers seems to have made a mistake in her application for a job in the Gender Studies department, which (presumably) doesn't exist in our school and has ended up accidentally being appointed to teach French.

We are lucky that our DS is very rational and loves science and facts. For personal reasons, he is very aware of sex stereotypes, which I think really helps. He rolls his eyes at the 'there are 72 genders' that some of the (almost exclusively) girls spout.

He's already been called homophobic by one of them for saying there are two sexes.

To which he replied "what do you think homosexual means?"?

Thanks @MrsOvertonsWindow I must admit it did take me by surprise, but you are absolutely right, it should not be left unchallenged. Thanks for the suggested questions.

I have now looked in the school pages - there is absolutely no information about this new club. No enrolment/consent either.
Can they argue that this is the case because of 'safe spaces' and 'homophobic families' etc etc?

I've found the RSE policy which mentions gender identity and diversity briefly in a long list of topics, but seemed more centered around biological facts, such as puberty and reproduction and safe relationships. For Y7/Y8 includes consent, conception, contraception, abuse, pornography, body image and FGM. I was positively surprised, but not sure if this is standard or not?

Yes I think so @ScrollingLeaves
I can't find it now

Mine are taught science and math and English
Trans is mot an issue it will not affect their ability to geta good job
They can make their own minds up about that as they get older

Most schools are soaked in it. I used to email in but dd was noticing coldness from staff towards her so I stopped. Mermaids posters up, pronouns in signatures, trans and other political identity ideology being taught/stated as fact with no attempt to “some people think…” and provide balance. I unpick it all at home, both dc know it’s all BS. What else can we do? Your children suffer if you don’t go along with it.

@ScrollingLeaves found the other thread and mentioned the good outcome at DP's school. Thank you

@bignosebignose
To which he replied "what do you think homosexual means?"?

Ha! He was certainly confused and could not understand how this girl had reached that conclusion! We had a long chat afterwards. He goes from not bothering about all this, to being rather obsessed about what it really means.

It is an issue because the pupils (if not your children, then their peers) are interacting with people off the internet. There are lots of older men who are very engaged in trans issues. In my experience you have groups of impressionable young teenage girls in the same chats as these men. These two distinct groups chatting about sex and gender and how they are the brave progressive ones and parents don’t know anything.
It is also an issue about getting a job if they are seen as ‘not an ally’. Employment issues can stem from this.
By the times trans boys and girls are older, they’ll have physical and mental changes (eg bones, voice, breasts and brains) which are not reversible. So ‘making your mind up’ when you’re older is too late.

The likelihood is that this is being run by a young teacher with minimal safeguarding knowledge and life skills and a desire for social justice who sees this group as the most oppressed ever.
Usually when you ask schools why they are running the group and ask them to clarify issues about accountability, safeguarding, parental consent etc there's a dawning realisation of what they've inadvertently got themselves into - and a panic about how they can impose structure and accountability without being called bigots by younger staff.
Stonewall have a lot to answer for - not only for systematically turning schools and workplaces into environments that are hostile to women and girls, but for encouraging younger staff to run these groups for children of varying ages that they don't have the skills, knowledge or experience to manage. Some of them are going to find out the hard way when children start disclosing the nature of some of the discussions that are being had in these groups and they'll be held accountable.

My 14yo ds came home and told me that trans women are women, according to the school.

I showed him a picture of the trans US swimmer, now identifying as female, and asked my ds if he thought they were a man or a woman.

DS immediately said 'man'.

So I told him that sometimes teaching can be politically influenced (for good or bad), but the most important thing about education is that it should always enable him to look at the individual facts of each case, and then make up his own mind.

Thankfully he is intelligent and mature enough to understand that it is ok to hold differing views without arguing about them.

You are right, it's run by two young teachers, one of them a male whith he/him in his email signature.

You mean a female Red Guard member?

Waves!!

That was my thread, I'll see if I can link it.

No real update, nothing from the DepHead. Will be asking for help with my email to her...

@ScrollingLeaves
@Elsanore

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4713725-please-help-gender-not-sex-on-a-school-protected-characteristics-poster-just-spoken-to-the-head?latest=1

Sorry to hear this. The Free Speech Union may be willing to defend you, as I expect your actual teaching Union will be useless and captured. freespeechunion.org/

Chem/bio teacher here.

Revision I prepared for my GCSE biology class today, asked about the chromosomes pairs that make a human male and human female.

I answer their questions as truthfully as possible, within the remit of their age and my job.

I tell them, we are members of the chordata Mammalia. Vertebrate mammals. No mammal has ever changed sex. Humans cannot change sex.

Should say "vertebrates, mammals."

Worth a read:
frankfuredi.substack.com/p/they-are-turning-schools-into-indoctrination?r=6426e&utm_medium=ios&utm_campaign=post

Thank you to all that have mentioned me with advice and a support/links!

My friend's daughter (Year 9 I think) was recently given an assignment by her French teacher in which she had to write an essay that began with the phrase "I find JKR's views on feminism troubling because..."

I am utterly flabbergasted by this. Talk about an appalling overstep.

Agree.

I would hope a student could have the bravery to write it like this, ""I find JKR's views on feminism troubling because they are reasonable views, very compassionate and center women, just like feminism proposes to do, yet some people can't understand nor do they bother to do their homework on what exactly JKRowling said. I will show her essay here and explain how it relates to feminism"